IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-11-14

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  9. [00:31:16] <KevinMarks> http://epeus.blogspot.com/2008/11/opensocial-birthday-today.html
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  32. [02:56:50] <nerbie69> good day. has anyone ever had success developing an open social app for a rails based app?
  33. [02:57:02] <nerbie69> or does it matter what the host app is written in?
  34. [02:57:11] <jarkko> nerbie69: it doesn't matter
  35. [02:57:19] <jarkko> we have a Rails app
  36. [02:57:44] <jarkko> although I quite eagerly wait for the day we can tap into the Rest API
  37. [02:57:55] <nerbie69> so can you hook like your user's into the app too via rest...oh
  38. [02:58:12] <jarkko> no, currently you got to use the JS api
  39. [02:58:36] <nerbie69> so i use restful authentication and i want to ensure that no transients aren't using my open social app, who aren' tallowed to view it.
  40. [02:58:48] <nerbie69> is open social the solution for this problem?
  41. [02:59:35] <jarkko> what's the problem actually
  42. [02:59:55] <nerbie69> if i want to allow only registered users to view/use an open social app.
  43. [03:00:23] <jarkko> if you're gonna use open social your users got to install the app on whatever social network they are on
  44. [03:00:42] <jarkko> you can do pretty much whatever you want to inside the application
  45. [03:00:59] <nerbie69> so it's up to the user to install and not the 'owner' of the network to install and limit access then?
  46. [03:01:20] <jarkko> no, but you can build an additional authentication layer to your own app
  47. [03:01:34] <nerbie69> true.
  48. [03:02:02] <nerbie69> so in rails speak i can do a !logged_in? != opensocial.app
  49. [03:02:22] <jarkko> I think you can keep your application "secret" as well, but that's not very scalable
  50. [03:02:43] <jarkko> that doesn't sound like "rails speak"
  51. [03:03:02] <nerbie69> out of context it's more ruby/python i guess...
  52. [03:03:06] <jarkko> :-)
  53. [03:03:13] <nerbie69> all that to say
  54. [03:03:42] <nerbie69> my new kick arse site wants to allow my site owners to control what their minions get to view, based on if they are a member or not.
  55. [03:03:55] <nerbie69> i can use opensocial apps but control acces on my app side.
  56. [03:05:00] <nerbie69> which means that i would need to have some sort of dashboard that will allow site owners to insert the url to the hosted open social site and then have to get them to select the 'hide' feature, as they won't know rails from a whole in the ground.
  57. [03:06:03] <nerbie69> which means a custom gem/plugin, as i'm sure some dink will figure out how to get around it..... which means i need to update constantly for security purposes...
  58. [03:06:28] <nerbie69> say can i pass a salted hash to open social hosted apps? kind of like a ssh key or something?
  59. [03:06:35] <nerbie69> ala paypal
  60. [03:06:49] <jarkko> opensocial containers always use oauth
  61. [03:07:02] * nerbie69 is googling oauth
  62. [03:07:06] <jarkko> so you get the user id and everything with a salted hash
  63. [03:09:45] <nerbie69> no offence to this open social js stuff, but does flash have a similar initiative going on per chance? i only ask cause you guys would know...
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  89. [08:47:48] <roxlu> hi
  90. [08:48:12] <roxlu> is there a way to check if the viewer has logged in? As i'm trying to ask permission of the viewer, but I get an error
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  184. [21:44:03] <GabeW> her
  185. [21:44:05] <GabeW> hrm rather
  186. [21:44:59] <GabeW> anybody know what is required to list a container on the opensocial wiki? http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Contributing_Container_Info is spammed
  187. [21:46:40] <GabeW> and seems to continuously being spammed
  188. [21:47:09] <tmoore_> you can create an account and fix it
  189. [21:47:13] <GabeW> yah
  190. [21:47:18] <GabeW> I am trying
  191. [21:47:18] <GabeW> but
  192. [21:47:27] <GabeW> it looks like people have added content *after* it was spammed?
  193. [21:47:29] <GabeW> wth
  194. [21:47:31] <GabeW> anyway
  195. [21:47:40] <GabeW> i don't have much time at the minute
  196. [21:48:53] <tmoore_> yuck
  197. [21:49:07] <tmoore_> this version looks ok http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Contributing_Container_Info&oldid=923
  198. [21:49:17] <GabeW> i was looking at v891
  199. [21:49:35] <GabeW> it has a lot more info
  200. [21:50:06] <GabeW> aaah
  201. [21:50:14] <GabeW> I think it should be reverted to 891
  202. [21:51:35] <tmoore_> yup
  203. [21:51:55] <GabeW> done
  204. [21:52:07] <GabeW> ok, this is now understandable ;)
  205. [21:52:46] <tmoore_> thanks :-)
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  209. [22:30:47] <KevinMarks> http://jobview.monster.com/GetJob.aspx?JobID=77489033&AVSDM=2008-11-14%2016:30:00&WT.mc_n=RSS2005_JSR
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