IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-10-28

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  22. [12:54:27] <andreban__> anyone reading?
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  56. [21:10:18] <_keturn> anyone playing with myspace's implementation? I'm having some trouble with getting the oauth request token
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  59. [21:31:19] <apijason> _keturn: kurrik might be able to help you out re: MySpace.
  60. [21:32:00] <kurrik> hi
  61. [21:32:02] <Vamsi> Hi Jason
  62. [21:32:16] <Vamsi> didnt see u
  63. [21:32:20] <apijason> Hi Vamsi.
  64. [21:32:20] <Vamsi> how are u doing ?
  65. [21:32:46] <Vamsi> U got my mail ? ... i somehow got inside the meet :D
  66. [21:32:50] <apijason> I was out the latter half of last week. I'll resume approving your apps today.
  67. [21:32:58] <apijason> Yes, I'm very glad for you. :)
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  69. [21:35:33] <Vamsi> thank u
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  71. [21:36:46] <Vamsi> jason
  72. [21:37:00] <Vamsi> i happen to meet one person in a local NGO
  73. [21:37:16] <Vamsi> they are currently supporting cancer patients
  74. [21:38:38] <Vamsi> they are trying to raise funds for people who cannot afford the expenses
  75. [21:38:53] <Vamsi> we are planning to develop an app to increase the awareness around this
  76. [21:39:31] <Vamsi> 1 cent per person wud save the lives of lot of people who are fighting cancer
  77. [21:40:12] <Vamsi> 1. can u give us some guidelines so that we can finish the app
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  84. [21:41:09] <apijason> Vamsi: sounds like a great cause. What kind of guidelines do you need?
  85. [21:41:23] <Vamsi> we will be having patients name /photos , medical certificates , donation information (generally directed to the hospitals) , patients contact
  86. [21:41:31] <Vamsi> the social element ?
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  88. [21:41:52] <Vamsi> we are getting around 70k visitors on musicmazaa
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  90. [21:42:22] <Vamsi> even if each person is in a way contributing a cent each wud make a lot of difference
  91. [21:42:47] <Vamsi> the new project is part of NGO not our own and we are doing it for charity :)
  92. [21:43:05] <Vamsi> but getting the social element is where we are stuck :(
  93. [21:43:56] <apijason> Are you planning to have a contribution mechanism, you can always record the level of contribution for one user and how much friends have donated. This is something similar to what Lil' Green Patch on MySpace does which contributes to environmental groups.
  94. [21:45:11] <Vamsi> wud that be enuf to get this out :)
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  97. [21:46:16] <apijason> Definitely.
  98. [21:46:41] <Vamsi> cool we shall try to wrap this by thursday then :)
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  100. [21:47:16] <apijason> The best apps like this make it a competition between friends to see who can donate the most. These are the most successful at contributing to the cause.
  101. [21:47:46] <Vamsi> we cant track the donations ... they directly go to the hospitals
  102. [21:48:05] <Vamsi> and orkut is full of students and job seekers
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  104. [21:48:24] <Vamsi> they cant donate though they can they rather buy a beer :)
  105. [21:49:07] <Vamsi> its better to give them points
  106. [21:49:22] <Vamsi> and points wud be on the number of mails they send out regarding the cause
  107. [21:49:51] <Vamsi> we shall use sendMessage
  108. [21:49:58] <Vamsi> and btb when is 0.8 coming up
  109. [21:50:18] <Vamsi> google india team gave a demo in shindig with 0.8
  110. [21:50:23] <Vamsi> looking forward to see it
  111. [21:51:34] <apijason> Hopefully within the next couple of weeks but no exact release date set. orkut's implementation of 0.8 is still semantic, so there's no real benefit to using 0.8 over 0.7 in orkut at the moment.
  112. [21:51:52] <apijason> How will you know when users send a message?
  113. [21:52:22] <Vamsi> isnt thr a trackback
  114. [21:52:28] <Vamsi> nvr tried sendmessage :(
  115. [21:53:40] <Vamsi> else we need to use yahoo / hotmail /gmail addressbook and use our own mail functions :)
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  117. [21:55:44] <apijason> No, no callback, unfortunately. Is there a way contributions can get sent to your server first before being forwarded to hospitals? That way you can track the contributions.
  118. [21:56:36] <Vamsi> the app will go dead ... contributions happen very rare .. but will do that :)
  119. [21:57:12] <Vamsi> the NGO raise funds from the number of people who is supporting the cause
  120. [21:58:25] <apijason> Another idea is building a game or some other viral app and find a sponsor to donate every time a user uses it, but this might be difficult by Thursday.
  121. [22:01:01] <Vamsi> there is one particular case who requires 101 480 USD to undergo a bone marrow transplantation , for now we will concentrate on this case coz he is running out of time
  122. [22:01:33] <Vamsi> we dont have medical insurances here and the insurance dont cover that huge expenses :(
  123. [22:02:01] <Vamsi> and he happened to be a junior of mine in my college
  124. [22:02:37] <Vamsi> wud google sponsor :P
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  126. [22:05:08] <apijason> I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I could ask within Google but I doubt we could setting anything by Thursday. :(
  127. [22:06:29] <Vamsi> thanks a lot jason , lets set the app ready and see what god decides :)
  128. [22:07:13] <Vamsi> app engine has this 1000 mail limit
  129. [22:07:35] <apijason> :) Email me when it's ready and I'll make sure it gets reviewed quickly.
  130. [22:08:03] <Vamsi> sure i will
  131. [22:08:18] <Vamsi> just looking at 1 lakh people who can donate a dollar each :)
  132. [22:08:38] <Vamsi> forget a beer and save a life :)
  133. [22:09:05] <Vamsi> people are too lazy to donate
  134. [22:09:29] <Vamsi> even if they are willing to sacrifice thier beer how wud they contribute is the big Q
  135. [22:09:34] <Vamsi> not every has a credit card
  136. [22:10:20] <apijason> There are SMS payment plans in some parts of the world. I'm not very familiar with any in particular.
  137. [22:10:38] <Vamsi> the NGO is already working hard to find sponsors
  138. [22:11:07] <Vamsi> jason social media is monetizing apps on facebook ... wud there be a similar body for orkut ?
  139. [22:18:35] <apijason> Social media ads are available for OpenSocial apps right now but not with the degree of customization as in Facebook. Once you build your app, I can have someone on my team get in contact with Social Media to see if there's anything they can do for you since you're building a non-profit app, but they'll probably want to see your app first.
  140. [22:21:22] <shawnshen> Vamsi, rockyou has their ad network open on myspace.
  141. [22:22:53] <Vamsi> will contact both of them :)
  142. [22:24:53] <apijason> I'm heading out now. Vamsi, let me know if you need anything over email, and I'll try to help you.
  143. [22:25:08] <Vamsi> sure .. thanks a lot jason ..
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  145. [22:25:33] <Vamsi> we shall start working on the app tomm and hopefully get back to u on thursday
  146. [22:25:37] <Vamsi> hi shawn
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  149. [22:42:45] <Vamsi> everyone have a nice day :)
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  153. [23:44:59] <_keturn> ok, the main trick to the myspace oauth was that it really didn't like POST

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