IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-08-05
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- [09:32:17] <ArunBoppudi>
Hi all
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anyone out there?
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- [14:28:49] <brunokbcao>
Anyone can tell me how updating our applications works?
- [14:29:25] <brunokbcao>
I mean, my XML is every time retrived from my server OR Orkut keeps my XML on its cache?
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- [20:14:21] <msg2>
I have a question about Lane's recent post about dev guidelines
- [20:14:32] <msg2>
He says: Don't automatically post an update when the user installs or views an app
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- [20:15:31] <msg2>
This is a necessary step as far as I understand in order to obtain the owner's info
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such as his name
- [20:16:33] <msg2>
Arne can you explain a method of getting the user's info if we can't upload [something] to the api database?
- [20:17:29] <msg2>
or Jason or anyone from Google
- [20:18:24] <jasonacooper>
What type of info.?
- [20:18:57] <jasonacooper>
Are you referring to the persistence API?
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- [20:19:43] <msg2>
Here are the details: json = ownerData[owner.getId()] throws an error if it's the first time a user installs the app
- [20:19:55] <jasonacooper>
Yes.
- [20:20:11] <msg2>
so I have a catch statement that uploads something to the api database
- [20:21:00] <msg2>
when there is nothing at all in the database, that line will throw an error. If there is something in the database, it won't throw an error and then I will have access to the user's info like his name, etc.
- [20:23:04] <jasonacooper>
If the user has just installed the application OR doesn't have the application at all, ownerData will be null. You should be testing whether ownerData is an object before attempting to access ownerData[owner.getId()]. But this shouldn't prevent you from accessing other data about the person such as name, ID, etc.
- [20:25:28] <msg2>
ok I'll try it out, thanks
- [20:27:17] <jasonacooper>
You can fetch the owner's app data along with the owner himself; even if no app data has been saved, the owner properties will still be available.
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- [21:04:44] <Vamsi>
Good afternoon jason
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- [21:05:44] <Vamsi>
am i late ... just returned from bangalore :D
- [21:06:51] <jasonacooper>
Hi Vamsi.
- [21:09:45] <Vamsi>
Hi jasonacooper
- [21:10:12] <Vamsi>
im mailing u actually ... any way to bulk submit :)
- [21:10:22] <Vamsi>
we have modified all other apps now
- [21:11:49] <Vamsi>
resubmitting now
- [21:13:11] <jasonacooper>
No way to bulk submit, unfortunately.
- [21:13:52] <Vamsi>
ok will do them separately
- [21:14:57] <Vamsi>
and about the Music Link ... can we have it for a while ... this part went unnoticed and our guys finished modding all the apps :(
- [21:24:12] <Vamsi>
can the application talk to each other ?
- [21:24:21] <Vamsi>
inter application communication
- [21:24:31] <Vamsi>
a bridge between apps
- [21:28:44] <api_dwh>
gadgets can communicate with each other while on the same page
- [21:28:50] <api_dwh>
using pubsub
- [21:29:05] <api_dwh>
but not without being displayed
- [21:29:19] <api_dwh>
you can't have background communication between apps
- [21:29:51] <Vamsi>
can i display two apps on the canvas page
- [21:30:00] <api_dwh>
no
- [21:30:06] <Vamsi>
... hmm
- [21:30:11] <api_dwh>
so basically intergadget communication works only on the profile
- [21:30:43] <Vamsi>
we are trying to port the search feature of musicmazaa in the music section for the fanclubs
- [21:30:58] <Vamsi>
seems to have to do it individually
- [21:30:58] <api_dwh>
if you have a serverside component to your apps, i would recommend implementing intergadget communication that way
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- [21:42:02] <brunokbcao>
Anyone can tell me how updating our applications works?
- [21:42:07] <brunokbcao>
I mean, my XML is every time retrived from my server OR Orkut keeps my XML on its cache?
- [21:45:00] <api_dwh>
orkut keeps a copy of your application in a local cache
- [21:45:05] <api_dwh>
and updates that every 1-2 hours or so
- [21:45:16] <api_dwh>
by pulling it from your server
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- [21:51:02] <Vamsi>
jasonacooper 25 application limit :(
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- [21:52:55] <Vamsi>
http://code.google.com/p/opensocial-resources/issues/detail?id=279
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- [21:54:49] <brunokbcao>
thanks dwh!
- [21:55:08] <brunokbcao>
But, it means that my app has to be reviewed every time I do an update?
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- [21:56:33] <api_dwh>
i dont think so
- [21:56:50] <api_dwh>
you'd have to confirm with jason, but i believe the only app approval happens when you submit it initially
- [21:57:52] <jasonacooper>
api_dwh is right. After your app is initially reviewed, any changes you make don't have to be reviewed. Just update the application XML and wait for the cache to flush.
- [21:58:53] <jasonacooper>
App's are cached but you control the cache (just set the appropriate server headers for your app spec). You can also flush it manually if you push an update.
- [21:59:08] <Vamsi>
how to flush manually ?
- [21:59:43] <jasonacooper>
Check out the Developer Application for OpenSocial or DAfOS.
- [21:59:44] <jasonacooper>
http://www.orkut.com/AppInfo.aspx?appId=845795770537
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- [22:00:06] <brunokbcao>
Great news you guys gave to me!
- [22:00:20] <Vamsi>
isnt that coderunner :>
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- [22:00:41] <Vamsi>
hey jasonacooper i mailed you ...
- [22:00:48] <brunokbcao>
I'm on a Challenge, and I were afraid of waiting more time until the app will be reviewed again... :)
- [22:01:34] <Vamsi>
bruno apps get reviewed very fast .. make sure u read the guidelines well and dont do what they tell you not to do :)
- [22:02:25] <brunokbcao>
Great Vamsi, I think there's no problem with our app :)
- [22:02:33] <brunokbcao>
Great, great... Thank you all!
- [22:02:37] <jasonacooper>
Yes, Vamsi, I got your mail.
- [22:03:18] <jasonacooper>
DAfOS is the new CodeRunner, yes. It has at least one more feature than CodeRunner (the ability to flush apps) and will have more going forward, whenever we find time to add them. :)
- [22:09:10] <Vamsi>
cool
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- [22:15:38] <Vamsi>
jasonacooper there was supposed to be a opensocial camp in bangalore ..
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- [22:15:50] <Vamsi>
can tell me something about it ?
- [22:17:09] <jasonacooper>
When was it supposed to be? I know there is a Google Developer Day in Bangalore in October.
- [22:17:33] <Vamsi>
October ok
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- [22:19:41] <Vamsi>
so are u coming ?
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- [22:22:43] <jasonacooper>
I'm afraid not. I'm stuck in the U.S. :) But other OpenSocial Googlers will be there.
- [22:23:07] <jasonacooper>
I should say, other orkut Googlers.
- [22:23:39] <Vamsi>
a chance to learn about Google developer products from the engineers who built them
- [22:23:44] <Vamsi>
i thought you were coming
- [22:24:00] <Vamsi>
may be i will come to US
- [22:24:23] <jasonacooper>
There will be plenty of smart people there. :) Sadly, I won't be able to make it.
- [22:25:09] <Vamsi>
oh ...
- [22:25:21] <Vamsi>
i missed out meeting aakash in bangalore
- [22:25:34] <Vamsi>
happy that his app got approved too :)
- [22:27:19] <jasonacooper>
I'm afraid I have to head out now. You should probably get some sleep. :) I imagine it's pretty late for you right now.
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- [22:28:45] <Vamsi>
yeah i rushed back from bangalore just to be here ..
- [22:28:51] <Vamsi>
k carry on
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