IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-07-10

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  17. [00:36:20] <Aakash> hi,
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  28. [01:49:42] <nomadic> hi
  29. [01:49:51] <nomadic> hope everyone is well
  30. [01:50:20] <nomadic> i've submitted my application on orkut, on several occasions now, but i still can't dont' seem to get approved, or get a reply, can anyone help?
  31. [01:51:15] <nomadic> anyone else stuck in the same situation?
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  72. [07:29:18] <india09> quick question related to orkut opensocial. How do I post data to my server? I keep the post form in my server. I have a link in the app. If the user clicks on that link, he will be taken to our server page. I want to pass his orkut uid in the URL as parm. His review will be stored with his uid. But, anyone can manipulate the URL and access the posting page with someone else's uid. Is there a way to call the posting pa
  73. [07:48:34] <india09> sometimes I have to answer my own question. that's ok! I found this page http://code.google.com/p/opensocial-resources/wiki/OrkutValidatingSignedRequests
  74. [07:50:54] <india09> This talks about signing the request to the server side pages, so that no one else can post the review on behalf of the orkut user. This is ok, if you keep the form in the orkut, but the main form (with fancy editor) lives in the server side, no need to check for the response from makeRequest();
  75. [07:51:23] <india09> if the signature is ok, just process the input from the user and done with it.
  76. [07:55:04] <india09> ok, next question, if anyone is willing to answer. What is the diff between orkut gadget owner id and uid? I tried the script in http://code.google.com/apis/orkut/docs/orkutdevguide.html#ops_uid to get the uid. it's not working. I get "null" in uid. Getting the gadget owner id is breeze. Just query gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"]
  77. [07:55:34] <india09> I see 33 users are out there. Anyone could help please.
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  80. [08:20:44] <yoichiro> the script that you executed is a lack of some process.
  81. [08:21:48] <yoichiro> To get PROFILE_URL, you should add the folling code:
  82. [08:22:05] <yoichiro> var req=opensocial.newDataRequest();
  83. [08:22:16] <yoichiro> var params = {};
  84. [08:22:23] <yoichiro> params[opensocial.DataRequest.PeopleRequestFields.PROFILE_DETAILS] = [opensocial.Person.Field.PROFILE_URL];
  85. [08:22:44] <yoichiro> req.add(req.newFetchPersonRequest("VIEWER", params), "viewer");
  86. [08:24:20] <india09> First, thanks! let me try that.
  87. [08:24:53] <yoichiro> probably, you couln't retrive Orkut UID because you didn't specify PROFILE_DETAILS.
  88. [08:29:06] <india09> this addition of code also didn't work. I still get null in profile_url ; I added your code in request();
  89. [08:31:39] <yoichiro> hmm... i want to look your code. is it possible?
  90. [08:32:32] <india09> yes, no problem
  91. [08:32:35] <india09> let me send the URL
  92. [08:34:57] <yoichiro> thank you. please wait.
  93. [08:36:56] <yoichiro> ok. you have to pass the params object for calling newFetchPersonRequest() function.
  94. [08:37:16] <yoichiro> after "VIEWER".
  95. [08:39:10] <yoichiro> newFetchPersonRequest("VIEWER", **params**). try again. :)
  96. [08:39:44] <india09> thanks, let me try
  97. [08:39:55] <yoichiro> yes.
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  103. [10:45:54] <pappan> Hi :-)
  104. [10:46:44] <pappan> Is it possible for my web app written in PHP to make or export orkut communities and the posts made there available ?
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  131. [14:14:20] <Aakash> hey
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  140. [15:02:25] <Aakash> apps rolled out in brasil?
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  145. [15:35:57] <kurrik> hey
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  152. [15:59:49] <Aakash> hi
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  154. [16:00:22] <Aakash> app rollout started to Brasil users?
  155. [16:00:26] <kurrik> yep
  156. [16:00:50] <Aakash> ok,
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  158. [16:24:23] <mNeo> oh, it started? Cool. When will this be done 100%?
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  167. [16:50:28] <Aakash> kurrik, there?
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  173. [17:06:22] <Administrator> hello... what's the update on brazil orkut launch?
  174. [17:07:09] <Administrator> hi
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  177. [17:07:41] <aMBi> hello
  178. [17:08:53] <aMBi> what's the update on orkut brazil launch?
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  180. [17:13:29] <Aakash> the rollout of apps to Brasil users has started
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  193. [17:39:18] <kkrueger> i am seeing intermittant problems with my orkut app. the javascript returns "undefined" for my index page most of the time. My co-worker installed the same app on his server and it is working fine. Is the sandbox still having trouble?
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  195. [17:45:19] <Aakash> whats your app url ? i am having no problems with sandbox at the moment
  196. [17:45:50] <cisoxx> I've looked around but really havne't found anyhting about this, but I'm trying to connect to a web service using SOAP, and was wondering if anyone knew a good way to do this in an OpenSocial gadget?
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  198. [17:47:32] <lsarna> Hey all
  199. [17:47:43] <lsarna> did any one get requestsendmessage working for multiple ids ?
  200. [17:47:48] <lsarna> Kurrik here ?
  201. [17:55:43] <davew> did orkut go live to the whole of Brazil this morning, or was it like a third of Brazil? With more to follow tomorrow? Anyone know?
  202. [17:56:16] <aMBi> open social will be launched phase-wise
  203. [17:56:24] <aMBi> phase 1 has already gone LIVE
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  205. [17:56:58] <davew> but what percentage was phase 1?
  206. [17:57:30] <davew> are we now 60% live? 75%?
  207. [17:59:27] <aMBi> not certain about the numbers
  208. [17:59:46] <aMBi> I expect the %ge to be lesser than 50%
  209. [18:02:05] <davew> even though a chunk of Brazil went live this morning? You still think it's less than 50% total of all orkut users?
  210. [18:04:17] <aMBi> definitely
  211. [18:04:29] <davew> good to know tx
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  213. [18:05:07] <aMBi> anytime buddy :)
  214. [18:07:43] <mNeo> dave: yeah, it's not gone live to all of Brazil
  215. [18:08:22] <mNeo> BTW, for a while, your app got to no.1 for pt users. I saw that when I was trying my localization changes
  216. [18:08:32] <davew> my number of installs already went up 4x today lol
  217. [18:08:44] <davew> yer I saw that too - then it got knocked down again
  218. [18:12:14] <davew> fyi I just received an email from Lane - they went live to 25% of Brazil today
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  220. [18:12:31] <mNeo> cool
  221. [18:13:20] <Aakash> omg just 25% , and so much activity on servers :P
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  223. [18:17:52] <kavya> Guys, I studied go4it app in orkut. Entire processing is done in their php/asp pages. App XML calls the js which in turn construct a dummy form and post all open social values to a PHP program in the server. I am thinking of following the same method. Does anyone see a downside to it instead of going with one XML file which calls many functions based on which page is called in the given moment?
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  226. [18:22:52] <jotto> kavya: a lot of people do that, it makes sense too, because you can cache the values the first time the app loads
  227. [18:22:57] <lsarna> davew
  228. [18:24:17] <lsarna> ambi
  229. [18:24:29] <lsarna> do you know if requestsendmessage is working for one to many ?
  230. [18:26:11] <aMBi> one-to-many not working as of now
  231. [18:26:20] <lsarna> ah ok
  232. [18:27:02] <lsarna> thanks ambi
  233. [18:27:08] <kavya> jotto: Thank you.
  234. [18:27:11] <aMBi> anytime :)
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  240. [19:05:37] <rf__> i saw the cache control headers for included content. but is there a way to force Orkut to force a refresh of the xml file??
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  243. [19:09:04] <jasonacooper> rf__: Install the Developer Application for OpenSocial (DAfOS) at http://dafos.appspot.com/gadget/dafos-orkut.xml
  244. [19:09:20] <jasonacooper> There's a tab for entering your app's URL and getting its cache cleared.
  245. [19:10:11] <rf__> ah, awesome. thank you
  246. [19:11:52] <rf__> worked perfectly. thanks jasonacooper.
  247. [19:12:03] <jasonacooper> rf__: No problem. :)
  248. [19:12:13] <rf__> one other question. when we submit an app to the directory, is it tied to an individual orkut account? (like some of the other social networks do?)
  249. [19:12:24] <rf__> if so, does anyone know if we can make a "company profile" to attach it to?
  250. [19:12:30] <jasonacooper> rf__: At the moment, no.
  251. [19:12:45] <rf__> ok, thanks again
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  253. [19:19:14] <mNeo> Jason, the text box in the Tools section doesn't show up in IE
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  255. [19:20:20] <jasonacooper> mNeo: Thanks for the note. We'll verify this then get it fixed shortly.
  256. [19:21:55] <mNeo> I think this is an awesome feature. Much appreciated
  257. [19:22:59] <jasonacooper> The current plan is to build a lot of other awesome features into the app in the coming months so stay tuned. :)
  258. [19:26:04] <mNeo> Now the only other thing that we need is .. someone from Orkut to add support for additional fields in Person
  259. [19:26:33] <kurrik> we're going to go grab lunch, back soon
  260. [19:26:38] * kurrik is away: lunchtime
  261. [19:28:40] <mNeo> BTW, if there a list of Person fields currently supported by Orkut?
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  270. [20:12:20] <rf__> jason. actually, whenever i try and clear the cache using DAfOS, it just says it's not cached
  271. [20:14:28] <jasonacooper> rf__: As long as its refreshing the cache, that should be OK.
  272. [20:14:59] <Aakash> hi
  273. [20:15:06] <Aakash> hi Jason
  274. [20:15:09] <jasonacooper> Hey there Aakash.
  275. [20:15:09] <rf__> ok. i'll try and come up with a test. having some other problems atm that are complicating it. =P
  276. [20:15:56] <Aakash> immense traffic today!
  277. [20:16:18] <jasonacooper> Indeed. :)
  278. [20:16:31] <kurrik> rf__: that may be because you're sending do not cache headers
  279. [20:16:36] <jasonacooper> And this is only the first stage of the launch. Next week will bring quite a bit more, we're expecting.
  280. [20:16:57] <Aakash> you guys have stats of how many users?, times the app failed to load..
  281. [20:16:59] <Aakash> ?
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  283. [20:17:45] <jasonacooper> Aakash: Not public stats, unfortunately.
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  285. [20:18:46] <techBrains> jason, i have added some features to my app (Namez) and i would like to know how can I update the current version....
  286. [20:19:33] <jasonacooper> techBrains: Go ahead and update your application's XML and the cache will be refreshed depending on your server's settings.
  287. [20:20:00] <jasonacooper> You can also install the Developer Application for OpenSocial (DAfOS) at http://dafos.appspot.com/gadget/dafos-orkut.xml and use it to manually flush your cache after your changes.
  288. [20:20:02] <techBrains> oh so there is no testing procedure?
  289. [20:20:11] <jasonacooper> No.
  290. [20:21:44] <mNeo> well you can test by creating a new app in sandbox
  291. [20:22:04] <mNeo> Dunno if that's what you asked there
  292. [20:22:29] <Aakash> signViewer="false" doesnot send viewerid in preload? and hence a latency improvement?
  293. [20:22:35] <techBrains> and can you explain me how the Newest Additions section works?
  294. [20:22:52] <jasonacooper> Yes, mNeo is right -- you should definitely have a test version of your application and only update the production version after you have debugged your changes.
  295. [20:23:08] <techBrains> on what bases are these applications selected..?
  296. [20:23:27] <jasonacooper> Aakash: Yes, basically.
  297. [20:24:20] <Aakash> ok! one more enhancement on way:)
  298. [20:24:25] <jasonacooper> techBrains: I'm trying to get to the bottom of why your app did not appear. It should have been. I'm talking with others who know the directory better than I do.
  299. [20:33:17] <mNeo> jason, do you know if there's a list of Person Fields that are currently supported in Orkut?
  300. [20:34:00] <rf__> kurrik, i believe those headers only affect the included content
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  302. [20:36:39] <jasonacooper> mNeo: Let me know if this helps: http://code.google.com/apis/orkut/docs/orkutdevguide.html#profiledatatable
  303. [20:38:13] <kurrik> rf__: if you want to ping me with the url of your xml spec, then I can take a look
  304. [20:38:52] <mNeo> I knew about that page. Darn! :)
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  306. [20:40:32] <mNeo> One suggestion though -- Age or Birthyear should definitely be made available. Birthdate is personally identifiable, but not the age/birthyear
  307. [20:41:58] <Aakash> will the developers warned of downtime or the app will be directly taken of due to there server issues?
  308. [20:42:07] <msg1> To what percentage of Orkut users were apps available previous to today? I'm wondering what type of increase we might expect.
  309. [20:43:09] <mNeo> I heard that apps were available to about 50% users
  310. [20:43:55] <Aakash> 54% of users are from brazil who didn't had apps untill today
  311. [20:45:33] <msg1> Do 100% of Orkut users get apps as of today or is this final rollout stretched over a week or something?
  312. [20:45:33] <Aakash> so maybe 46% prev +14%( 25%of 54) today=60% of users have app now
  313. [20:45:41] <Aakash> just a guess:)
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  315. [20:46:27] <Aakash> no only 25% of brazilians got apps today..
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  317. [20:48:16] <jasonacooper> Correct.
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  324. [21:05:14] <msg1> Can a googler answer the details of the final rollout questions?
  325. [21:06:17] <jasonacooper> msg1: What would you like to know?
  326. [21:06:58] <msg1> To what percentage of Orkut users were apps available previous to today?
  327. [21:07:13] <msg1> Also do 100% of Orkut users get apps as of today or is this final rollout stretched over a week or something?
  328. [21:12:35] <jasonacooper> msg1: This is orkut's largest launch to date. We're doing a staggered rollout, a certain percentage today and then the rest very soon (think a week or two). You can expect about 2 to 3 times as much traffic when the rollout is completed.
  329. [21:12:48] <jasonacooper> I realize this doesn't answer your questions completely, but it should give you an idea of what to expect.
  330. [21:13:34] <jasonacooper> We'll be at 100% of orkut users after this rollout is finished.
  331. [21:18:20] <msg1> thanks jason
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  345. [22:42:56] <kurrik> mNeo, if you're still here, I fixed the Tools tab for IE
  346. [22:43:37] <kurrik> for future reference, IE7 requires a TBODY element to be explicitly created when you're building a table using DOM methods
  347. [22:52:28] <mNeo> okay .. thanks. I try to do all my development in IE. I've been burnt a lot of times by doing all dev in FFox, only to find that app isn't even working in IE
  348. [22:52:46] <kurrik> like this case ;)
  349. [22:52:52] <mNeo> lol. If only IE had firebug
  350. [22:53:39] <kurrik> seriously, the hardest part of coding for IE is the complete and utter lack of any sort of information as to what is going on
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  352. [23:08:49] <mNeo> Kurrik, are you there? Can you please pm me
  353. [23:09:00] <kurrik> sure
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