IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-07-03

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  81. [14:29:34] <MiniOverlord> Hi, I am currently trying to get into open social development and after toying around with the tutorials and orkut, digging through the docs all day, I was wondering if it is possible to access information about the group membership of users ("communities" in orkut) via the API.
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  96. [15:32:57] <KoBB> Hello everyone, I am looking for someone that is hosting OpenSocial apps for a tip or two. Thanks for any help :)
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  98. [15:42:08] <Munkle> I can try to hel you KoBB
  99. [15:42:12] <Munkle> help*
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  102. [15:57:01] <KoBB> Great, I must be on my way now, hope catching you tommorow maybe
  103. [15:57:15] <KoBB> Thanks very much for your answer :)
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  108. [16:00:54] <G2_-_Da_Geek> how can I use Orkut's CSS in my application....?
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  140. [18:15:21] <Aakash> hi
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  142. [18:27:04] <kurrik> hi
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  145. [18:32:38] <Munkle> hello
  146. [18:32:46] <kurrik> hi
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  160. [19:44:32] <PSobota> so can i ask something?
  161. [19:46:28] <PSobota> so anyone taking questions?:
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  164. [19:58:01] <krishna> Hi All I have an issue in php session managment in open social app.... $_SESSION values are lost when I opened a new page from the first page
  165. [19:58:09] <krishna> I used session_start
  166. [19:58:18] <krishna> Can anybody help
  167. [19:59:05] <krishna> values are lost in a starnge way... if I store $_SEESIOn['user'] = $_REQUEST['user']
  168. [19:59:24] <krishna> in the same page $_SESSIOn is having that value
  169. [19:59:58] <krishna> but in the next page after session_start() $_SESSIOn is having like this Array(user=>)
  170. [20:00:08] <krishna> Did anybody faced this issue
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  172. [20:09:33] <PSobota> so anyone has an idea how I can check what data type my ResponseItem.getData() calls are returning?
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  176. [20:17:34] <kurrik> well in javascript there aren't really concrete types, so through introspection the best you'll do is find out that it's an "object"
  177. [20:18:02] <kurrik> what I usually do is console.log it in Firebug, which lets you see what properties and methods are available on it
  178. [20:18:07] <krishna> Hi any google employees joined?
  179. [20:18:18] <kurrik> if you don't use Firebug, I'd really suggest doing so
  180. [20:18:23] <kurrik> http://www.getfirebug.com
  181. [20:18:33] <kurrik> hi krishna
  182. [20:19:34] <krishna> Hi I am having very strange issue with php session management in open social app... I will write the cmplete desc in next few lines
  183. [20:20:15] <kurrik> I don't think $SESSION will be compatible with OpenSocial gadgets
  184. [20:21:19] <krishna> then is there any generic way to pass viewer_id and name and friends urls to multiple php pages
  185. [20:21:43] <krishna> suppose using makerequest I pass thesedetails to page 1
  186. [20:21:59] <krishna> Now page will have links to multiple pages
  187. [20:22:08] <krishna> they all too needs the info
  188. [20:22:38] <krishna> is there any generic way for this?
  189. [20:22:55] <WaaX> krishna Are you using Shindig?
  190. [20:23:33] <krishna> no I am using orkut only
  191. [20:23:53] <kurrik> krishna, what type of gadget are you writing? it sounds like a type=url
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  193. [20:28:57] <krishna> Yes I need that kind of gadget only with the viewer info in the page... since there is no api which I call in my php page
  194. [20:29:23] <PSobota> yea i use Firebug and yes I get that it's an object..
  195. [20:29:25] <krishna> to fetch user details I am getting the first page using makerequest
  196. [20:29:44] <krishna> and putting all other page links in 1st page
  197. [20:29:55] <PSobota> which doesn't help but I will try console.log
  198. [20:30:42] <kurrik> PSobota: just stick console.log(variable_name); into your javascript
  199. [20:32:12] <kurrik> krishna: I'm not quite sure I get how you're building this
  200. [20:32:27] <kurrik> the first page is loaded through makeRequest, which prints links
  201. [20:32:40] <kurrik> clicking those links redirects the gadget IFRAME to another php page?
  202. [20:33:04] <krishna> yes
  203. [20:33:33] <krishna> this is what exactly I am doing
  204. [20:33:36] <PSobota> i got "Object" in the console.. where are these properties and methods listed?
  205. [20:33:54] <kurrik> click on it
  206. [20:34:37] <PSobota> "no properties for the object" actually i think this is a weird object I'm getting
  207. [20:34:49] <kurrik> that is strange
  208. [20:35:10] <PSobota> i'm trying to get the value for an unitialized storage field.. like one that hasn't been set yet
  209. [20:35:17] <kurrik> krishna: that first page you makeReqested isn't actually running in the same php session as the pages the user clicks on then
  210. [20:35:28] <PSobota> i wonder why i don't get null instead of this object.
  211. [20:36:16] <kurrik> PSobota: is this in response to a requestPersonAppData call?
  212. [20:36:48] <PSobota> FetchPersonAppDataRequest
  213. [20:37:22] <kurrik> er, yeah ;)
  214. [20:37:36] <PSobota> yes, i mean
  215. [20:37:38] <krishna> oh is it... then how can I send info to 1st page which can be shared by all other pages
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  220. [20:40:39] <kurrik> PSobota: the response of that will be an object like { "<user id>" : <key,value data> }
  221. [20:40:58] <kurrik> if the user doesn't have any data, I don't believe that they will show up in that object
  222. [20:41:09] <kurrik> so if nobody has that data, then you should get { } back
  223. [20:41:33] <kurrik> krishna: that's going to take a bit more work
  224. [20:41:43] <PSobota> ok.. would that object have any name or it's a dynamically created object?
  225. [20:42:04] <kurrik> just dynamically created - should be what you get out of the getData() call
  226. [20:42:11] <kurrik> if you set data, you should see something in there
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  229. [20:44:47] <krishna> Hi Kurrik.... i didn't get it
  230. [20:46:32] <kurrik> sorry, this is a bit complicated
  231. [20:46:58] <kurrik> when you makeRequest a page, it's orkut, hi5, myspace, whatever that is actually retrieving the page from your server
  232. [20:47:27] <kurrik> so you're not going to be able to store stuff in SESSION
  233. [20:48:05] <kurrik> what you can do is pass any data you want to access as POST data to your page
  234. [20:48:39] <kurrik> when your page sees it in POST, it stores this data in your database in a new row with some ID number
  235. [20:49:13] <kurrik> this ID number should be randomly generated and pretty large
  236. [20:49:38] <kurrik> then when you print out your page in PHP, make all the links look like this
  237. [20:50:05] <kurrik> http://yourserver.com/page2?id=<the same ID number you set when you wrote the data>
  238. [20:50:26] <kurrik> then, whenever you render page2, check to see if that ID number is there
  239. [20:50:38] <kurrik> and get the appropriate data from your database
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  242. [20:54:20] <kurrik> of course, this isn't terribly secure
  243. [20:54:45] <kurrik> so I'd suggest that when you find the information in your database, then you should write it to $SESSION
  244. [20:54:51] <kurrik> and delete the data
  245. [20:56:44] <krishna> Yup this seems to be very good solution for me too
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  247. [20:59:58] <krishna> Thank you very much kurrik ... bye bye
  248. [21:00:08] <kurrik> sure
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  250. [21:00:58] <PSobota> { "<user id>" : <key,value data> } is this a dictionary of dictionaries? what would be this called?
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  252. [21:01:42] <kurrik> you can think of it that way
  253. [21:01:59] <kurrik> in js, it's all just "objects"
  254. [21:02:15] <kurrik> but objects <==> dictionaries for the most part
  255. [21:02:47] <PSobota> i am looking for a way to test whether that has nothing inside.. but looks like js doesn't have a dictionary syntax
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  257. [21:03:57] <PSobota> like.. have i gotten {} back? init the data to some string
  258. [21:04:27] <kurrik> I see
  259. [21:12:58] <kurrik> hm, I'm actually surprised that I wasn't able to find a better way to do this
  260. [21:13:57] <kurrik> assuming the response is called "obj"
  261. [21:13:59] <kurrik> var keys = 0;
  262. [21:14:04] <kurrik> for (var i in obj) if (obj.hasOwnProperty(i)) keys++;
  263. [21:14:16] <kurrik> if (keys == 0) {
  264. [21:14:28] <kurrik> <init the data>
  265. [21:14:30] <kurrik> }
  266. [21:16:31] <PSobota> so that's counting the properties on the object
  267. [21:17:05] <PSobota> it worked
  268. [21:18:02] <kurrik> yeah
  269. [21:18:07] <kurrik> cool
  270. [21:20:43] <PSobota> thanks.. gotta understand this nature of js better
  271. [21:20:47] <PSobota> see ya
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  273. [21:21:11] <kurrik> sure, take care
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