IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-06-26

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  47. [08:13:29] <mrmowgli> If anyone on the shindig project is around, is there a guide to what's being injected into the various classes? Or which classes to look at for the injected code? I assume the injection is being done by Guice?
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  57. [13:34:56] <MarijnS> mrmowgli, you asked a question about the injection of classes in shindig. Is your problem solved already?
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  61. [14:11:52] <danbri> fwiw i've been trying to auto-extract an rdf schema from the OS .js APIs
  62. [14:12:22] <danbri> work in progress: http://danbri.org/2008/opensocial/_latest.html
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  65. [14:34:40] <jkinner> danbri: Any though on relating to FOAF?
  66. [14:35:17] <danbri> yup :) first i thought i'd get them into the same environment...
  67. [14:35:39] <danbri> which would btw allow one to use opensocial concepts within html, microformat-style in rdfa ....
  68. [14:36:02] <danbri> foaf needs some modest changes too (partly motivated by google sgapi and better mappings to xfn)
  69. [14:36:24] <danbri> ...and vcard/hcard, the new vcard specs, etc
  70. [14:36:34] <danbri> there's so much going on, my head hurts
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  72. [14:52:17] <jkinner> lol
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  113. [19:18:27] <danbri> opensocial/schema hacking from earlier: http://danbri.org/words/2008/06/26/349
  114. [19:18:30] * danbri calls it a day
  115. [19:20:58] <Bernas2> what time is it now?
  116. [19:22:12] <danbri> 21.22 here :)
  117. [19:24:14] <Bernas2> hum...
  118. [19:24:22] <Bernas2> and in pacific time?
  119. [19:24:36] <Bernas2> sorry, in PST
  120. [19:24:39] <Bernas2> ?
  121. [19:25:01] <y0rg1> 12:24 i believe
  122. [19:25:15] <danbri> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ is handy :)
  123. [19:25:36] <danbri> 12:25 in sanfran
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  126. [19:27:44] <Bernas2> thks danbri
  127. [19:27:52] <Bernas2> and y0rg1
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  132. [19:39:30] <Aakash> hey Jason :)
  133. [19:40:14] <jasonacooper> Hey Aakash. :)
  134. [19:41:27] <Bernas2> hi Jason, how are u?
  135. [19:41:35] <davew> can we start asking questions yet? ;)
  136. [19:41:50] <jasonacooper> Of course! :)
  137. [19:41:56] <y0rg1> sounds like you already started davew
  138. [19:41:57] <y0rg1> :-D
  139. [19:41:57] <jasonacooper> Hi Bernas2.
  140. [19:43:29] <Aakash> i am having poor CTR for adsense in my app
  141. [19:43:59] <Aakash> 75k impressions, only 20 clicks
  142. [19:44:05] <davew> so it looks like requestSendMessage went live on Orkut this morning. But it only supports text? Which sort of leads to very plain, almost spammy emails. It's hard to get a user excited about something with just text. Is there any word on adding support for images and general html in the message / email text body?
  143. [19:45:02] <jasonacooper> Yeah, I've seen a few posts in the group about HTML in messages, and I'm following up on it.
  144. [19:45:37] <davew> thanks jason :) appreciate it.
  145. [19:46:05] <y0rg1> jason, do u guys help w/ iGoogle bugs?
  146. [19:46:41] <jasonacooper> Aakash: I'm sorry about the poor CTR. Maybe as your app grows, you'll see more clicks.
  147. [19:46:47] <Aakash> is it because adsense loads before the request from server comes resulting in untargeted ads?
  148. [19:46:53] <jasonacooper> y0rg1: We do!
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  150. [19:47:00] <davew> Aakash, that seems incredibly low. i have 1000 clicks for the same number of impressions.
  151. [19:47:00] <api_dwh> hi everyone!
  152. [19:47:09] <Aakash> hi
  153. [19:47:16] <pico4743> jasonacooper: noob question. we posted a new xml for our app about 4 hours ago, but aren't seeing it yet. When does the cache timeout?
  154. [19:47:18] <y0rg1> i'm getting "a._IFPC is undefined" when my gadget loads
  155. [19:47:48] <Aakash> requestSendMessage() went live on orkut ? :O
  156. [19:47:52] <api_dwh> @y0rg1, yes, we're aware of this issue
  157. [19:48:02] <api_dwh> it's not affecting the actual usage of your gadget is it?
  158. [19:48:04] <davew> Aakash, it did this morning..
  159. [19:48:06] <Aakash> davew whats your app name?
  160. [19:48:08] <y0rg1> ah, ok good
  161. [19:48:11] <davew> buddypoke
  162. [19:48:19] <y0rg1> thx api_dwh
  163. [19:48:29] <Aakash> you are using adsense?
  164. [19:48:34] <davew> yes
  165. [19:48:36] <jasonacooper> pico4743: orkut's cache honors your Cache-Control server header. So this can be several minutes, several hours, or even several days depending.
  166. [19:48:50] <Aakash> ok thanks
  167. [19:49:38] <davew> Aakash, today seems to have a lower ecpm for some reason. But the last week it's been doing very well. I just have one large banner that loads at the bottom.
  168. [19:51:26] <Aakash> davew, where are your most of your users from?
  169. [19:51:29] <pico4743> jasonacooper: thanks. firebug seems to say that I'm set to no-cache. What then?
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  171. [19:52:21] <jasonacooper> pico4743: What is your app's URL?
  172. [19:53:14] <pico4743> jasonacooper: http://www.electricplanet.com/matcher-live/opensocial/orkut/canvas.xml
  173. [19:53:26] <davew> Aakash - almost entirely from Brazil, then India, Japan and the US in that order
  174. [19:53:46] <Aakash> same here
  175. [19:54:04] <Bernas2> jasonacooper my aplication is still having problmens with language, now the aplication is in english and only the title apear in portuguese, do you have any idea what is causing it?
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  177. [19:56:00] <kurrik> pico4743: it looks like your server isn't returning a cache-control header to me
  178. [19:56:22] <kurrik> and it's returning an ETag, which has caused problems in the past
  179. [19:56:23] <pico4743> kurrik: I just checked that with curl and agree.
  180. [19:56:50] <pico4743> kurrik: with the non-existent ccheader
  181. [19:57:54] <pico4743> kurrik: what happens without the header? cache forever?
  182. [19:58:24] <kurrik> there's some default time
  183. [19:58:33] <jasonacooper> pico4743: The default time is 5 minutes.
  184. [19:58:53] <pico4743> jasonacooper: we've been 4 hours
  185. [19:59:56] <kurrik> try turning off the ETag header, I've had some problems with that
  186. [20:01:38] <jasonacooper> pico4743: I'll follow up with someone more versed in the infrastructure services, but the ETag header may the culprit.
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  188. [20:03:45] <Aakash> opensocial.DataRequest.Group.OWNER_FRIENDS allowed in requestSendMessage() on orkut?
  189. [20:07:08] <jasonacooper> Yes
  190. [20:07:20] <jasonacooper> AFAIK
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  192. [20:10:08] <pico4743> jasonacooper: thanks, I'll look into that
  193. [20:11:49] <jasonacooper> pico4743: Caching has been a bit of a thorn in our side for the past few weeks, and we're working through a few bugs in the way the headers are parsed and the cache is flushed, etc. Thanks for bearing with us. If I learn anything new about your particular app's situation, I'll be sure to let you know.
  194. [20:12:32] <davew> Jason, do you know what percentage of Orkut users are from Japan, and if the application directory is live in Japan? I was kind of surprised that Japan is my third largest user base. I'm just thinking if they make up a reasonable percentage of users I'll do a message bundle for them. Thanks
  195. [20:13:06] <pico4743> jasonacooper: thank you. I have some major new functionality waiting to roll on that cache reset.
  196. [20:13:28] <jasonacooper> I don't know the exact percentage of Japan users, no, but the directory should be live in Japan.
  197. [20:13:44] <davew> ok thanks
  198. [20:16:04] <jasonacooper> orkut's largest markets are Brazil and India, so you should definitely write bundles for these regions. But if you see a large amount of traffic coming from another region (e.g. Japan), by all means. :)
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  201. [20:40:55] <pico4743> jasonacooper: FYI, I turned off the ETags header 15 min. ago. No change yet.
  202. [20:43:26] <Aakash> there are lot's of issues with sendmessage()!!
  203. [20:44:13] <Aakash> when the user doesnot enter any personal message, the text "enter personal message" goes along with message
  204. [20:44:13] <jasonacooper> pico4743: Since it's already been cached, orkut is continuing to use the version with the older headers. I haven't been able to get ahold of the infrastructure team yet, but it's on my to-do list, and I'll ping you if I hear anything new.
  205. [20:44:45] <jasonacooper> Aakash: So I hear. Can you file an issue in the tracker?
  206. [20:44:58] <Aakash> ok,
  207. [20:44:58] <jasonacooper> Along with any other issues you find.
  208. [20:46:02] <Aakash> ok,
  209. [20:46:16] <pico4743> jasonacooper: gotcha. thanks
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  217. [21:19:05] <mNeo> Does the 'callback' work for requestSendMessage?
  218. [21:31:10] <kurrik> which container?
  219. [21:32:51] <mNeo> orkut
  220. [21:33:30] <kurrik> works on sandbox, haven't checked the prod yet
  221. [21:34:29] <kurrik> looks like it works in prod also
  222. [21:34:51] <mNeo> okay .. I'll look into this. What all can we get in the callback?
  223. [21:35:01] <mNeo> response.data.status?
  224. [21:35:11] <kurrik> just whether it was cancelled or not
  225. [21:35:22] <mNeo> okay. thanks
  226. [21:35:52] <kurrik> oh, there'll be a limit exceeded error if you go over quota also
  227. [21:36:16] <mNeo> is there an example of handling those error-codes somewhere?
  228. [21:37:11] <mNeo> And the limit exceeded error will be displayed to the user by Orkut as well, right?
  229. [21:37:41] <kurrik> not sure about the UI stuff
  230. [21:37:46] <mNeo> ok
  231. [21:37:47] <mNeo> thanks
  232. [21:37:48] <kurrik> for the codes, the argument passed to the callback
  233. [21:37:49] <davew> i think it's up to us to show an error if the user goes over the quota
  234. [21:37:57] <kurrik> will have a hadError() method on it
  235. [21:38:06] <kurrik> which will return false if you're over quota or the user cancels
  236. [21:38:27] <mNeo> okay, makes sense
  237. [21:38:27] <kurrik> you can use ".getErrorCode()" to find out the exact error
  238. [21:39:28] <davew> it's sort of annoying from a user's perspective. If they actually type in a personal message, then hit send, their message may or may not go through. Once a user gets burned by typing in a personal message and not having it go through they'll just not type a personal message again.
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  240. [21:40:20] <davew> but because the quota is for applications we can't even keep an internal count of how many emails have been sent (and not show the popup if they are over quota)
  241. [21:40:20] <kurrik> yeah, but you can query against whether it was sent or not
  242. [21:41:03] <davew> it just seems backwards to me.. We should only show the popup if the user is under quota.
  243. [21:41:05] <kurrik> although it would be nice to have a method to determine beforehand whether there's quota left to perform an action
  244. [21:41:13] <davew> exactly
  245. [21:41:32] <davew> why ask a user to enter a personal message if it might not go through
  246. [21:41:35] <kurrik> you should propose it here: http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-and-gadgets-spec/topics ;)
  247. [21:42:32] <davew> maybe I will :P
  248. [21:43:11] <kurrik> that's not tongue-in-cheek... I've been trying to get more developers to propose stuff they'd like to see there
  249. [21:43:27] <davew> I just wish it supported images. The emails look so boring and spammy. They'll annoy users in no time if we can't put cooler stuff in them
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  251. [21:44:58] <kurrik> well the spec says that html is allowed but may be sanitized by the container, I guess orkut decided to filter all of it out
  252. [21:47:14] <kurrik> you could file a feature request here: http://code.google.com/p/opensocial-resources/issues/list
  253. [21:47:31] <davew> will do
  254. [21:47:56] <kurrik> thanks
  255. [21:51:54] <mNeo> Dave/Kurrik, have you guys seen the callback function getting called? My first statement is an alert() in that callback function. Never gets called. I tried both -- cancel and send
  256. [21:52:17] <mNeo> I'm in the sandbox
  257. [21:52:46] <davew> mNeo, I haven't tried the callback yet - I only just started playing around with it
  258. [21:52:50] <kurrik> what does your sendMessage call look like?
  259. [21:53:04] <mNeo> sendMessage succeeds
  260. [21:53:34] <kurrik> code-wise
  261. [21:53:35] <mNeo> I have a title saying, "blah blah asked you to vote for him"
  262. [21:53:40] <mNeo> okay ..
  263. [21:53:58] <mNeo> opensocial.requestSendMessage(recipient, message, invitationCallback);
  264. [21:58:32] <kurrik> check this code out:
  265. [21:58:33] <kurrik> http://code.google.com/p/opensocial-resources/wiki/SendingMessages
  266. [22:00:12] <mNeo> hmm .. that's exactly what I am doing
  267. [22:00:20] <mNeo> Let me check my code once again
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  280. [22:29:25] <Aakash> hey makeRequest is continueosly failing for me on Orkut sandbox
  281. [22:31:57] <jasonacooper> I'm looking it...
  282. [22:32:27] <Aakash> i am getting rc:504 on unsigned request response
  283. [22:32:30] <jasonacooper> Aakash: Where are you located?
  284. [22:32:44] <Aakash> India
  285. [22:32:49] <jasonacooper> OK
  286. [22:32:59] <Aakash> in production orkut, it works fine
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  288. [22:35:15] <Aakash> <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>java.lang.IllegalArgumentException</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#000000"> <H1>java.lang.IllegalArgumentException</H1> <H2>Error 400</H2> </BODY> </HTML> the response from proxy
  289. [22:37:00] <jasonacooper> Thanks for the extra info. I can't reproduce, so I'm verifying whether our data center in that region is healthy.
  290. [22:37:39] <Aakash> ok
  291. [22:43:11] <jasonacooper> Aakash: Have you enabled rewriting by any chance?
  292. [22:43:40] <Aakash> nope
  293. [22:44:05] <jasonacooper> Is this with your app only or with other apps also?
  294. [22:45:49] <Aakash> only for my app
  295. [22:46:38] <jasonacooper> What's the URL?
  296. [22:46:55] <Aakash> http://sandbox.orkut.co.in/AppInfo.aspx?appId=674290091829
  297. [22:47:13] <jasonacooper> Do you have the URL to the spec itself handy?
  298. [22:47:46] <Aakash> http://enext.biz/aks/tags.xml
  299. [22:48:14] <jasonacooper> Great, thanks.
  300. [22:51:03] <jasonacooper> Aakash, try adding this block to your ModulePrefs. (This blocks the rewriting mechanism):
  301. [22:51:05] <jasonacooper> <Optional feature="content-rewrite">
  302. [22:51:05] <jasonacooper> <Param name="include-urls"></Param>
  303. [22:51:05] <jasonacooper> <Param name="exclude-urls">.*</Param>
  304. [22:51:05] <jasonacooper> <Param name="include-tags"></Param>
  305. [22:51:05] <jasonacooper> </Optional>
  306. [22:51:27] <Aakash> ok, 1 min
  307. [22:53:58] <Aakash> doesn't seem to work
  308. [22:54:36] <Aakash> you need request headers?
  309. [22:54:54] <jasonacooper> Sure. Are you using &bpc=1?
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  311. [23:01:02] <Aakash> http://mibbit.com/pb/871q4Q here you go
  312. [23:01:09] <Aakash> i am using &bpc=1
  313. [23:03:26] <jasonacooper> You're preloading this particular resource?
  314. [23:03:46] <Aakash> nope,
  315. [23:05:15] <jasonacooper> Ah, I see. You're preloading tag.php but not TagSearch which is throwing the error.
  316. [23:05:23] <Aakash> yup
  317. [23:07:20] <jasonacooper> Hmm. Try http://sandbox.orkut.com.
  318. [23:08:00] <Aakash> no this happens in sandbox itself
  319. [23:08:08] <Aakash> no problem on orkut.com
  320. [23:08:38] <jasonacooper> The link above was sandbox.orkut.co.in -- try sandbox.orkut.com instead.
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  322. [23:12:57] <LukeNysen> hi, anyone know if there's a way to force Orkut to reload their cache?
  323. [23:13:34] <jasonacooper> LukeNysen: I'm afraid not, not yet at least. What's the situation?
  324. [23:13:43] <LukeNysen> it'd be nice to be able to do this when publishing
  325. [23:14:13] <LukeNysen> otherwise you end up with version descrepancy between front end and back end supporting services
  326. [23:15:02] <jasonacooper> At the moment, orkut (or should honor) your Cache Control header, so refresh time can be anywhere from several minutes to several days.
  327. [23:15:36] <LukeNysen> ahhh
  328. [23:15:42] <LukeNysen> okay, thanks for the tip
  329. [23:15:50] <Aakash> jasonacooper: it seems to work now.. but still every 1/4 req crashes
  330. [23:16:03] <Aakash> anyways, thanks for the help
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  332. [23:16:36] <jasonacooper> Hmm. I'm happy it works part-time, but I'll still look into the 25% failure rate.
  333. [23:16:55] <jasonacooper> This is to the same script? TagSearch.php?
  334. [23:17:01] <Aakash> yes
  335. [23:17:04] <jasonacooper> OK
  336. [23:18:23] <Aakash> basically it happens with all scripts whenever the response doesnot come from cache..
  337. [23:19:10] <Aakash> see if you find anything, g2g now..
  338. [23:19:37] <jasonacooper> Thanks Aakash, I'll see what I can find out.
  339. [23:19:57] <Aakash> i am removing the optional rewrite tags for now, as this breaks the app on hi5
  340. [23:20:06] <jasonacooper> Alright, that's fine.
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  342. [23:33:30] <jasonacooper> Aakash: When you come back, can you try removing the Preload element? It looks like your failure is coming from tag.php now (I'm seeing "url=http%3A%2F%2F8.19.35.141%2Ftag.php%3Ftag" in Firebug's Post tab instead of TagSearch.php which I did before).
  343. [23:36:26] <Aakash> hey, removed that
  344. [23:37:16] <Aakash> now it crashes on load itself as no response coming from cache i think
  345. [23:40:14] <jasonacooper> I'm not seeing it crash at load. I'm still seeing a 400 when I click one of the tags ("Stud", "sweet", etc.).
  346. [23:40:14] <Aakash> the post data for me url=http%3A%2F%2F8.19.35.141%2Ftag.php&httpMethod=GET&headers=&postData=&authz=signed&st=AFinprSWGvS K2XQrKgJvKxTcChI82pAAEYGMWxwIMu2OmR6uPahj_Pfd0Gik8EYKpdZJpO9x_y3B61hmFD4fuFl8izsT9UQiZ9mzble4rSSFWKdU-EcBC4M &contentType=TEXT&numEntries=3&getSummaries=false&signOwner=true&signViewer=true&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fenext .biz%2Faks%2Ftags.xml&bypassSpecCache=1 for tag.phpreq
  347. [23:43:01] <jasonacooper> Did this start happening spontaneously or did you make any changes to this particular script recently? I'd like to hit the resource directly but I can't because of the signature verification.
  348. [23:44:58] <Aakash> i didn't make any changes to script.. wait i am disable the signature check for few time
  349. [23:48:00] <Aakash> http://8.19.35.141/tag.php?opensocial_owner_id=123
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