IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-06-20
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- [09:43:28] <pbor>
is this the right channel to ask about gadgets or there is one more specific?
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- [10:33:21] <Aakash>
hi
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- [15:23:11] <YD>
well hello bodies
- [15:31:16] <YD>
all bot-guy?
- [15:32:16] <vesper>
not really
- [15:32:19] <vesper>
hi YD
- [15:32:38] <vesper>
I assume this channel is operated by people from the US mainly
- [15:32:40] <YD>
Oh ya
- [15:32:47] <vesper>
so they might be waking up right now
- [15:33:24] <YD>
all right
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- [16:40:17] <kurrik>
good morning
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- [17:25:33] <NS|Glock_Coma>
anyone from rockyou on?
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- [19:15:14] <GabeW>
hey, some feedback on documentation - I find the dev docs really confusing and hard to find stuff - things seem a little sprinkled around
- [19:16:03] <GabeW>
maybe just more crosslinking within the docs would be ok
- [19:16:41] <GabeW>
(for example, trying to find why gadgets.window.setTitle wasn't working -- I forgot there was a separate feature for setTitle -- but it wasn't easy to find the doc on that )
- [19:17:09] <GabeW>
so link to the section on http://code.google.com/apis/gadgets/docs/ui.html everywhere setTitle is mentioned would have been really helpful
- [19:17:45] <katahdin>
yeah you do have to do some hunting to find stuff
- [19:18:21] <GabeW>
and of course google search provides too much ;)
- [19:18:51] <katahdin>
I wish there was docs similar to .net with a complete hierarchy that you could drill down through
- [19:19:29] <GabeW>
also, the organization begtween gadgets, opensocial, and igoogle docs is very fuzzy and confusing
- [19:19:36] <katahdin>
now it's sorta broken up. Took me awhile to find it all. You just sorta have to dive in
- [19:19:47] <GabeW>
i would hope/guess/wish that the opensocial foundation would take up this
- [19:20:22] <GabeW>
it looks like docs are driven by the people working on each piece
- [19:20:44] <GabeW>
so I understand how they are the way they are
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- [19:32:34] <kpanic>
hi, is there already a class in python/ruby/php that uses the opensocial rest api? thanks
- [19:40:40] <kurrik>
gabew: that's pretty good feedback
- [19:41:28] <kurrik>
I'd like the gadgets and opensocial documentation to eventually live only in opensocial.org
- [19:41:42] <kurrik>
I don't really know whether that's going to happen or not - technically gadgets != opensocial
- [19:42:08] <kurrik>
kpanic: nothing that compiles, but there are a few stub projects in code.google.com/p
- [19:43:04] <kurrik>
part of the documentation problem is that iGoogle uses an older gadgets API, while opensocial uses a newer one
- [19:43:19] <kurrik>
but as iGoogle switches over, we need to keep two sets of docs
- [19:43:32] <kpanic>
kurrik, thanks
- [19:43:49] <kurrik>
it's pretty confusing right now, I know
- [19:44:13] <kurrik>
I'm kind of working on getting a better wiki solution for devs though
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- [20:31:36] <kapil>
hey, any idea how do i get 1st level friends list using opensocial 0.8. Not able to get Idspec thingy
- [20:33:25] <kurrik>
are you asking for just the syntax? 0.8 hasn't been implemented anywhere as far as I know
- [20:34:50] <kapil>
ya, some sample code?
- [20:35:44] <kapil>
hey, am i speaking to Arne Roomann-Kurrik from google?
- [20:57:14] <GabeW>
you are
- [20:57:29] <GabeW>
actually you aren't *speaking*, to be pedantic
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- [21:01:43] <kpanic>
'nite people
- [21:02:06] <kurrik>
sorry, was busy for a minute there
- [21:02:46] <kurrik>
?def kurrik
- [21:02:57] <kurrik>
aww, jibot isn't in the channel
- [21:03:03] <kurrik>
yeah, I'm Arne
- [21:03:22] <kurrik>
haven't bothered with figuring out sample code yet, let me take a look though
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- [21:05:31] <shreyank>
hi all
- [21:05:50] <shreyank>
i am facing some problems with orkut styles tabs
- [21:06:06] <shreyank>
when im using the example its running properly
- [21:07:07] <shreyank>
when i include the functionality into my app, it gives the error : Error: __MODULE_ID__ is not defined
- [21:07:12] <shreyank>
please help
- [21:08:59] <kurrik>
kapil: looks like this
- [21:09:18] <kurrik>
var spec = new opensocial.IdSpec();
- [21:10:02] <kurrik>
spec.setField(opensocial.IdSpec.Field.USER_ID, "XXXXXXX");
- [21:10:06] <GabeW>
jibot is here? oh probably cuz of KevinMarks
- [21:10:47] <kurrik>
spec.setField(opensocial.IdSpec.Field.NETWORK_DISTANCE, 1);
- [21:11:45] <kurrik>
then use spec wherever you would normally use a opensocial...blah..VIEWER_FRIENDS structure
- [21:12:25] <kurrik>
jibot is in here every now and then
- [21:12:32] <kurrik>
I don't know who is running the instance
- [21:12:47] <kurrik>
shreyank: where are you running the application?
- [21:13:09] <shreyank>
kurrik, on a private server
- [21:13:18] <kurrik>
where are you rendering it?
- [21:13:49] <shreyank>
kurrik, on my college LUG server...
- [21:14:10] <kurrik>
sorry, I meant which container?
- [21:14:17] <shreyank>
kurrik, orkut
- [21:15:55] <shreyank>
kurrik, any ideas ?
- [21:17:27] <kurrik>
__MODULE_ID__ should be replaced on orkut
- [21:17:35] <kurrik>
but if it's not, you can just put whatever in there
- [21:17:39] <kurrik>
like 0
- [21:18:08] <kurrik>
if you want, I can take a look at your source to try and see why it's not being replaced
- [21:18:24] <shreyank>
kurrik, then i should replace __MODULE_ID__ with 0
- [21:18:28] <shreyank>
kurrik, sure
- [21:18:32] <kurrik>
yeah, that should work
- [21:18:37] <shreyank>
kurrik, ok
- [21:18:48] <kurrik>
__MODULE_ID__ is kind of an old leftover from iGoogle
- [21:20:17] <shreyank>
kurrik, not working
- [21:20:52] <shreyank>
kurrik, now its giving the error: gadgets.TabSet is not a constructor
- [21:21:22] <shreyank>
kurrik, the problem is that it was running fine without errors with the example gadget
- [21:21:33] <kurrik>
yeah, let me take a look at your code?
- [21:21:34] <GabeW>
kurrik: leftover in the sense of the name hasn't been updated?
- [21:21:39] <kurrik>
ping it to me privately
- [21:21:49] <shreyank>
kurrik, ok
- [21:22:04] <kurrik>
GabeW: in the sense that it was used to namespace gadgets for inlining in iGoogle
- [21:22:20] <kurrik>
inlined gadgets aren't really allowed anymore so it's not such a big deal
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- [21:37:02] <Peter_J-L>
msg nickserv register Wake1Up! we@johnson-lenz.com
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- [21:39:02] <GabeW>
kurrik: no linlines?
- [21:39:05] <GabeW>
huh?
- [21:39:06] <GabeW>
really?
- [21:39:26] <GabeW>
its in the spec for sure still, right?
- [21:39:27] <kurrik>
yeah, they're whitelist only on iGoogle
- [21:39:40] <kurrik>
sorry, what's in the spec?
- [21:39:43] <GabeW>
well, i spose I'm less concerned about iGoogle and more
- [21:39:47] <GabeW>
about the container we have internally a
- [21:39:51] <GabeW>
inline
- [21:40:02] <kurrik>
you're free to inline whatever you want
- [21:40:06] <GabeW>
we're building containers with some widgets inlined
- [21:40:07] <kurrik>
if you're running a container
- [21:40:08] <GabeW>
yah
- [21:40:28] <kurrik>
just make sure that they're not malicious, they have access to the container cookies then
- [21:40:42] <GabeW>
yah, they are our widgets only
- [21:40:47] <kurrik>
yeah that's fine
- [21:40:58] <GabeW>
i spose we could build them without being widgets, come to think of it
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- [21:41:48] <kurrik>
yeah, but the modularity can be nice
- [21:41:55] <GabeW>
yup
- [21:42:15] <GabeW>
well, in the sense that if they were just blobs of html generated on the server side
- [21:42:23] <GabeW>
without ajax even
- [21:42:31] <GabeW>
since its our widgets running only in our container
- [21:42:40] <GabeW>
but thats more work ;)
- [21:43:14] <kurrik>
:)
- [21:43:45] <GabeW>
loading a bunch of javascript makes things seem a lot slower because its serialized by the browser
- [21:43:48] <GabeW>
:0/
- [21:46:08] <kurrik>
yeah, most of the public containers inline their api code in the rendered gadget for this reason
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- [21:49:52] <Peter_J-L>
?
- [21:50:00] <kurrik>
?
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