IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-06-19
Timestamps are in UTC.
- [00:03:41] <kurrik>
marxistvegan_: not really the right place to ask, but I don't think so
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- [08:19:41] <kpanic>
hi, I'm trying to learn opensocial. it is possible for example to retrieve the list of activity of a myspace user? or bullettins? thanks
- [08:25:02] <Suhail>
kpanic: #myspacede
- [08:25:14] <Suhail>
kpanic: #myspacedev
- [08:25:32] <kpanic>
ok thanks
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- [13:35:30] <FlauntIt>
hello :)
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- [15:29:41] <kronixx>
g'mornin
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- [20:06:34] <YoYoGa>
hi guys, are people from orkut team here?
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- [20:07:39] <YoYoGa>
I have a question: Can you access viewer friends' orkut id?
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- [20:09:29] <kurrik>
hey
- [20:09:41] <kurrik>
you can get their opensocial ID
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- [20:10:10] <YoYoGa>
ok but not the orkut id?
- [20:10:25] <kurrik>
the id in the url of their profile?
- [20:10:36] <YoYoGa>
right, but i can't access profile_url
- [20:10:40] <kurrik>
you could parse it out of their profile url, but only if they have the app installed
- [20:10:45] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:10:56] <YoYoGa>
is HAS_APP feature available yet?
- [20:11:15] <jasonacooper>
Yep, HAS_APP filter works.
- [20:11:19] * bakert shudders at the mention of HAS_APP
- [20:11:25] <YoYoGa>
oh cool - hi jason!
- [20:11:30] <jasonacooper>
Hello. :)
- [20:11:42] <YoYoGa>
i see two of you from orkut team are here
- [20:11:55] <kurrik>
I'm not from the orkut team, I just know a lot about orkut ;)
- [20:12:01] <YoYoGa>
ok:)
- [20:12:11] <YoYoGa>
ok i will use HAS_APP filter then and then access profile_urls
- [20:12:18] <YoYoGa>
to get uids
- [20:12:42] <YoYoGa>
I guess that would work. Right?
- [20:13:02] <YoYoGa>
since profile_urls are null if I try accessing them otherwise without filtering
- [20:13:25] <jasonacooper>
I'm actually not sure if PROFILE_URL is available for all users or only those who have the application installed. I think the behavior may have changed, but I'll do a quick test to check.
- [20:13:35] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:13:45] <jasonacooper>
They're not returned by default anymore for sure; you have to ask for the PROFILE_URL field to be returned in your request.
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- [20:13:58] <api_dwh>
hi everyone!
- [20:14:34] <YoYoGa>
oh how do i do that
- [20:15:21] <YoYoGa>
I was just using the standard newFetchPeopleRequest(opensocial.DataRequest.Group.VIEWER_FRIENDS), 'viewerFriends')
- [20:16:15] <YoYoGa>
got ya
- [20:16:22] <YoYoGa>
maybe u meant by using a params array
- [20:16:36] <kurrik>
yeah, by adding the field to a parameter object
- [20:16:41] <YoYoGa>
cool - thanks!
- [20:17:26] <jasonacooper>
I just tested it and it works.
- [20:17:33] <YoYoGa>
thanks!
- [20:17:43] <YoYoGa>
Another thing - Can we discuss the question of application spam on this channel?
- [20:17:57] <jasonacooper>
Sure
- [20:18:23] <YoYoGa>
I wrote to the team a few days back about incessant violation of guidelines by an app
- [20:18:37] <YoYoGa>
like issuing updates on installation
- [20:18:52] <YoYoGa>
and misleading messages like 'make money' by installing this app
- [20:19:32] <YoYoGa>
I was wondering if I was correct in my assessment and what the team's thoughts were on the subject?
- [20:19:40] <jasonacooper>
Yes. I've already emailed a number of developers about these violations and I'm following up with them.
- [20:19:56] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:19:57] <jasonacooper>
It's a hard thing to police, but our guidelines are pretty clear, and I appreciate your notifications.
- [20:20:12] <jasonacooper>
Feel free to keep them coming.
- [20:20:16] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:20:45] <YoYoGa>
ok - I will leave it at that - we worked hard on an app only to have a pretty badly designed app come later
- [20:20:54] <YoYoGa>
and pass us in user base using those spam techniques
- [20:21:24] <YoYoGa>
anyway, we hope good apps will survive the test of time
- [20:21:49] <jasonacooper>
I think they will naturally, but I understand your frustration all the same.
- [20:22:09] <YoYoGa>
thanks - I will chill for a bit and others ask questions
- [20:24:08] <YoYoGa>
ok..i guess will ask another one. Any idea on brazil release timeline?
- [20:25:13] <jasonacooper>
We're going to make a formal announcement really soon. I believe the general time frame that we're targeting is before mid-July, so not too much longer.
- [20:25:21] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:26:17] <YoYoGa>
How much is the wait time nowadays on app approval/reject decisions?
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- [20:27:47] <jasonacooper>
Longer than we'd like, but we're making progress in bringing this average time down. In the meantime, we're encouraging developers to email opensocial-app-feedback if they're concerned about the amount of time.
- [20:27:55] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:29:09] <YoYoGa>
another thing - out of curiosity - can apps access a person's status?
- [20:29:12] <jasonacooper>
Unfortunately, it takes a lot of time to go through the apps, make sure they aren't violating the guidelines and make sure they're fairly secure in terms of XSS vulnerabilities, but we are making strides to move much quicker.
- [20:29:17] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:29:19] <YoYoGa>
yea
- [20:29:29] <YoYoGa>
i understand - ain't easy reading other ppl's code:)
- [20:30:08] <YoYoGa>
btw, can apps access a person's status - it is part of profile but not listed in documentation as something we can access.
- [20:30:21] <jasonacooper>
Do you mean users' online status in the social network?
- [20:30:21] <YoYoGa>
by status i mean not the online status
- [20:30:36] <jasonacooper>
Oh, I see.
- [20:30:39] <YoYoGa>
no, the user's status in profile - like 'reading XYZ'
- [20:31:03] <jasonacooper>
Right. That's something I'm not entirely sure about, actually. But I'll do a quick check. :)
- [20:31:13] <YoYoGa>
ok :)
- [20:31:25] <YoYoGa>
since you mentioned, what about online status?
- [20:34:57] <jasonacooper>
Yep, it looks like orkut supports opensocial.Person.Field.STATUS
- [20:35:07] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:35:12] <YoYoGa>
cool - thanks!
- [20:35:19] <YoYoGa>
and online status?
- [20:36:32] <jasonacooper>
I believe there is in 0.8 spec.
- [20:36:37] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:37:09] <YoYoGa>
another often asked question - i presume - is timeline on 0.8 implementation for orkut?
- [20:37:41] <jasonacooper>
That's entirely dependent on the progress with Shindig. I think it's going pretty well, but it's not right around the corner.
- [20:37:46] <YoYoGa>
ok
- [20:37:58] <YoYoGa>
and RESTful APIs will come with 0.8, right?
- [20:39:00] <jasonacooper>
Correct.
- [20:39:33] <YoYoGa>
ok
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- [21:05:58] <YoYoGa>
ok - thank you guys for your help!
- [21:06:22] <jasonacooper>
Not a problem. :)
- [21:07:01] <YoYoGa>
bye
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- [21:12:57] <Suhail>
jasonacooper: hi there!
- [21:14:08] <jasonacooper>
Hi Suhail.
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- [21:18:29] <JellomMaster>
is it still office hours?
- [21:18:49] <kurrik>
sure
- [21:18:55] <kurrik>
we're still here, at least ;)
- [21:19:21] <JellomMaster>
i submited an application a while ago (over a month) and it is still not included in the dir nor have i received an email
- [21:19:59] <JellomMaster>
appId=604287398042
- [21:21:27] <kurrik>
I see feedback having been sent to that app
- [21:21:41] <kurrik>
ping me with the email you used?
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- [21:25:31] <JellomMaster>
kurrik how do i ping?
- [21:25:40] <Suhail>
download the client
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- [22:07:50] <YoYoGa>
hi guys, one more question - what's the status of requestShareApp and requestSendMessage?
- [22:09:21] <jasonacooper>
requestShareApp is still not planned; requestSendMessage should be hitting www.orkut.com very soon, hopefully within a week.
- [22:10:11] <YoYoGa>
cool
- [22:10:13] <YoYoGa>
thanks
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- [22:12:28] <Suhail>
jasonacooper: plans to expand beyond the 10% you are currenetly at?
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- [22:14:08] <jasonacooper>
We're already above 10%, actually. But we are targeting our biggest launch (Brazil) for mid-July or thereabouts, so not too far off.
- [22:14:22] <jasonacooper>
We'll be at 100% at that point.
- [22:17:29] <Suhail>
100% mid july?
- [22:18:14] <jasonacooper>
Yep.
- [22:21:58] <mNeo>
Jason .. why do you think requestSendMessage keeps getting delayed every week? Any specific reason?
- [22:24:21] <jasonacooper>
It's not that it's getting delayed per se. orkut has to wait for certain things to push (e.g. infrastructure enhancements) before they can roll out certain features. Last I heard, everything was set this week, so I think you'll see requestSendMessage hit www.orkut.com very soon.
- [22:26:00] <mNeo>
I see. Thanks
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