IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-06-05

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  6. [00:55:14] <v_vamsi> Good morning everyone
  7. [00:56:01] <WaaX> Good morning! Where do you leave?
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  10. [01:08:21] <sethuhdiah> is there any way to make the gadget create messages, bullitens, or comments?
  11. [01:09:32] <kurrik> sethuhdiah: the opensocial spec defines a function called requestSendMessage that allows your gadget to send messages to other users
  12. [01:11:16] <sethuhdiah> thanks, cant do comments?
  13. [01:11:58] <kurrik> comments on what?
  14. [01:12:14] <sethuhdiah> post comments to other users pages
  15. [01:14:11] <kurrik> inside the application?
  16. [01:14:15] <kurrik> or profiles?
  17. [01:14:41] <sethuhdiah> on profiles.. where can i get more info on Activity objects
  18. [01:16:09] <kurrik> I think that if profile comments were to be included, it would be a container-specific call
  19. [01:16:30] <kurrik> something like orkut.postScrap() or myspace.postComment()
  20. [01:16:41] <kurrik> what information do you need?
  21. [01:19:00] <sethuhdiah> nevermind i found a tutorial
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  23. [01:22:17] <v_vamsi> hi kurrik
  24. [01:22:37] <v_vamsi> arne ?
  25. [01:22:42] <v_vamsi> waax i live in india
  26. [01:23:06] <v_vamsi> sethu whats ur app url again ?
  27. [01:23:21] <kurrik> hi
  28. [01:24:32] <sethuhdiah> right now i got a celeb gadget .. www.topcelebs.biz/widget/celebs.php
  29. [01:24:59] <sethuhdiah> im still workin on it a bit
  30. [01:27:09] <sethuhdiah> put together this gas prices gadget too.. www.omnibizsolutions.com/gadgets/gaspump.php
  31. [01:28:39] <sethuhdiah> err www.omnisitebuilder.com/gadgets/gaspump.php
  32. [01:32:39] <v_vamsi> gasprices
  33. [01:32:41] <v_vamsi> inflation
  34. [01:32:43] <v_vamsi> nice one
  35. [01:33:07] <sethuhdiah> thanks
  36. [01:33:28] <v_vamsi> sethu
  37. [01:33:34] <v_vamsi> u need to concentrate on the xml specs
  38. [01:33:40] <v_vamsi> cant find any images or description
  39. [01:33:53] <v_vamsi> on the app review page
  40. [01:34:10] <v_vamsi> buggy
  41. [01:34:12] <v_vamsi> :(
  42. [01:34:52] <v_vamsi> nice app :)
  43. [01:34:55] <v_vamsi> very neat
  44. [01:35:03] <v_vamsi> work on the UI :)
  45. [01:35:08] <sethuhdiah> ok, ill work on fixing the bugs.. getting graphics done soon
  46. [01:35:19] <v_vamsi> not many bugs
  47. [01:35:27] <v_vamsi> bt when the app is initiated
  48. [01:35:41] <v_vamsi> a small javascript error
  49. [01:35:45] <sethuhdiah> is that E[I] error from my app?
  50. [01:35:52] <v_vamsi> kurrik , arne :)
  51. [01:36:00] <v_vamsi> yup
  52. [01:36:06] <v_vamsi> why are u getting that ?
  53. [01:36:34] <v_vamsi> http://opensocial.musicmazaa.com/app/index.xml
  54. [01:37:10] <v_vamsi> i wud be submitting it today almost done expect for a simple server side part for the profile page :)
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  56. [01:39:46] <v_vamsi> sethu u dont have separate profile page :-/
  57. [01:41:11] <sethuhdiah> heh not yet, im just starting out.. your app says Not Found for some odd reason
  58. [01:42:27] <v_vamsi> not found
  59. [01:42:51] <v_vamsi> u should be able to open that :-/
  60. [01:43:18] <v_vamsi> is it opening in a browser ?
  61. [01:43:25] <v_vamsi> is it for me ?
  62. [01:43:28] <sethuhdiah> yeah opens fine in my browser
  63. [01:43:43] <v_vamsi> try in hi5
  64. [01:44:40] <v_vamsi> where u from sethu ?
  65. [01:44:49] <v_vamsi> u name looks so tamil
  66. [01:46:11] <sethuhdiah> im from usa
  67. [01:47:50] <sethuhdiah> thats a pretty good app
  68. [01:49:13] <sethuhdiah> do you just use javascript or do you also use a server side language?
  69. [01:50:34] <v_vamsi> im using both
  70. [01:50:52] <sethuhdiah> php? or python?
  71. [01:50:56] <v_vamsi> hope it gets approved soon
  72. [01:50:57] <v_vamsi> php
  73. [01:51:36] <v_vamsi> since google app engine is open now
  74. [01:51:45] <v_vamsi> i wud move the server side over tere
  75. [01:52:03] <sethuhdiah> i thought the app engine was python
  76. [01:52:36] <v_vamsi> yeah
  77. [01:52:48] <v_vamsi> python is easy :)
  78. [01:53:14] <v_vamsi> i was waiting for the app engine access , done my homework on the sdk :)
  79. [01:53:27] <sethuhdiah> i havent looked at python, php seems easy enough
  80. [01:53:35] <sethuhdiah> im really takin advantage of makeRequest
  81. [01:55:39] <WaaX> hi v_vamsi, looks like I got to work on my english ;)
  82. [01:57:45] <v_vamsi> sethu: seen that in your celebs app
  83. [01:58:08] <v_vamsi> english cant have bugs
  84. [01:58:56] <WaaX> I need a good parser
  85. [02:01:21] <v_vamsi> parser
  86. [02:01:23] <v_vamsi> ??
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  88. [02:04:53] <WaaX> an english language parser to fix my english...
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  92. [02:14:51] <v_vamsi> hehe
  93. [02:15:06] <v_vamsi> lets write one then
  94. [02:15:14] <v_vamsi> english language parser open social application
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  96. [02:20:01] <sethuhdiah> can you get the english dictionary in a mysql db?
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  98. [02:27:19] <v_vamsi> i wud rather consume a service hosted by dictionary.com
  99. [02:28:00] <v_vamsi> if there is an api from them then we can definetly build an english parser for WaaX
  100. [02:29:01] <sethuhdiah> urbandictionary has an api
  101. [02:30:13] <v_vamsi> here u go another app idea in process :)
  102. [02:30:47] <sethuhdiah> hah its too easy to get new app ideas
  103. [02:36:33] <WaaX> I'd love that, I'll do the QA
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  118. [04:19:10] <sergiov> hello? anyone here?
  119. [04:19:59] <sergiov> would anyone have an insight into a failed IE6 DataRequest that takes 5+minutes and then calls its callback?
  120. [04:20:50] <roomanna> only in IE6? which container?
  121. [04:21:23] <sergiov> Myspace
  122. [04:21:24] <roomanna> what is it querying?
  123. [04:21:36] <sergiov> app initialization. Fetching viewer and owner
  124. [04:21:52] <sergiov> once installed, the request comes back in normal time
  125. [04:22:03] <roomanna> hm, I don't really have experience with MySpace
  126. [04:22:29] <sergiov> i currently have a theory that myspace is sending a response that doesn't parse correctly in IE6, only when uninstalled
  127. [04:22:41] <sergiov> so the correct response would work fine
  128. [04:22:45] <roomanna> it takes that long only if the app isn't installed?
  129. [04:22:50] <sergiov> yup
  130. [04:22:53] <roomanna> and is it fast in Firefox or IE7?
  131. [04:22:57] <sergiov> yeah
  132. [04:23:20] <sergiov> i'm trying to find something in the guts of the opensocial container that would give that behavior
  133. [04:23:36] <sergiov> like: constant retries until a counter runs out
  134. [04:23:40] <roomanna> yeah that's really weird
  135. [04:24:09] <sergiov> http://developer.myspace.com/Community/forums/t/1132.aspx
  136. [04:24:19] <sergiov> that's the only stuff i've found that references this problem
  137. [04:24:34] <sergiov> although I think the poster was wrong. the callback does get called
  138. [04:24:40] <sergiov> it just takes anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes
  139. [04:25:59] <sergiov> i find it difficult to believe that Myspace would discriminate between browsers to answer a request
  140. [04:26:07] <sergiov> plus, the installed app behavior in IE6 is normal
  141. [04:26:30] <roomanna> yeah
  142. [04:26:40] <roomanna> I think that your theory makes sense
  143. [04:26:49] <roomanna> can you dump the response in firebug?
  144. [04:26:52] <sergiov> so my guess is the request is coming back, but IE6 can't parse it, fails silently, probably keeps retrying for a while (or goes into a semi infinite loop)
  145. [04:26:55] <roomanna> the raw JSON of the response
  146. [04:26:59] <sergiov> and then calls the callback
  147. [04:27:19] <sergiov> the response is not passed to the callback, is it?
  148. [04:27:28] <sergiov> i think this just initialized the app container...
  149. [04:27:36] <sergiov> mmm... let me se
  150. [04:27:37] <sergiov> see
  151. [04:28:28] <roomanna> you should see the browser making the request in firebug
  152. [04:28:45] <roomanna> you can open that up and check the "response" tab
  153. [04:28:57] * sergiov smacks head
  154. [04:28:58] <sergiov> <error xmlns="api-v1.myspace.com"><statuscode>401</statuscode><statusdescription>User has not installed
  155. [04:28:58] <sergiov> the current application or application does not have access to requested resource</statusdescription
  156. [04:28:58] <sergiov> ></error>
  157. [04:29:00] <sergiov> that's it
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  159. [04:29:53] <roomanna> hm weird
  160. [04:30:16] <roomanna> I would've expected that to come back down as something parseable by the browser like JSON
  161. [04:30:35] <sergiov> yeah, they do their own handling
  162. [04:31:05] <roomanna> can you handle that case anywhere?
  163. [04:31:47] <sergiov> i don't think so. The proper handling of this stuff is to check if the viewer or owner have been initialized after the request has come back (and called the callback)
  164. [04:32:10] <sergiov> if they haven't, it means the app is not installed
  165. [04:32:18] <sergiov> (that's the gist of it anyway)
  166. [04:32:34] <sergiov> the problem is that it's taking forever to call the callback
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  168. [04:33:11] <sergiov> i'm toying with the idea of setting up a 'daemon' process in js that checks for a value in the opensocial code
  169. [04:33:19] <sergiov> there must be something in there that is changing state
  170. [04:33:53] <roomanna> so does the browser do some xml parsing on that response? might indicate some weird bug in IE's JS XML parsing implementation
  171. [04:34:21] <roomanna> is there a public link to the app you can link me to?
  172. [04:34:30] <sergiov> that's a good question. That would be part of the container code, not me though
  173. [04:35:16] <roomanna> yeah, naturally
  174. [04:36:24] <sergiov> do you have AIM?
  175. [04:37:53] <roomanna> I'm not authenticated on this nick so you may not be able to ping me
  176. [04:38:22] <roomanna> I can see anything you send though
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  219. [11:19:53] <v_vamsi> arne kurrik
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  240. [16:01:36] <sethuhdiah> are there any commercial social network scripts available that are opensocial compatible?
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  242. [16:04:41] <jkinner> sethuhdiah: Ringside Networks (http://www.ringsidenetworks.org) just released OS support based on PHP Shindig in our last beta. It's LGPL.
  243. [16:04:48] <jkinner> OS 0.7
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  245. [16:21:54] <sethuhdiah> thanks, im gonna see if we can use that
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  275. [19:46:30] <a9913> ugh... orkut sandbox gives me "gadgets is not defined" (through firebug) at gadgets.util.registerOnLoadHandler
  276. [19:47:03] <a9913> the same app was working fine a few days ago...
  277. [19:53:00] <a9913> oh, and how do i add a screenshot to moduleprefs?
  278. [19:53:49] <a9913> <ModulePrefs screenshot="http://foo.bar/screenshot.png" > ?
  279. [20:29:37] <kurrik> a9913: http://code.google.com/apis/gadgets/docs/reference.html#Moduleprefs_Ref
  280. [20:29:52] <kurrik> that looks good
  281. [20:30:40] <kurrik> I'm not seeing the "gadgets is not defined" on the sandbox though
  282. [20:30:41] <a9913> kurrik, thanks ^_^
  283. [20:30:44] <kurrik> can you give me more information ?
  284. [20:30:50] <kurrik> about the gadget you're running
  285. [20:31:09] <a9913> umm... well... it's working fine on the real thing... so i don't think that's any problem anymore..
  286. [20:31:25] * a9913 tries again
  287. [20:31:37] <kurrik> weird
  288. [20:32:26] <a9913> eh... now i get a "there was an error displaying this application"...
  289. [20:33:30] <kurrik> hm, ping me with a link?
  290. [20:33:38] <a9913> k, 'sec...
  291. [20:34:54] <a9913> that's the one
  292. [20:35:06] <kurrik> thanks
  293. [20:36:12] <kurrik> seems to be working for me, is it an intermittent thing?
  294. [20:36:40] <a9913> dunno, happened the first time :S
  295. [20:37:21] <a9913> never mind, works fine on the real thing ^_^
  296. [20:37:28] <a9913> thanks a ton, kurrik ^_^
  297. [20:37:54] <kurrik> sure, let me know if you have any other questions
  298. [20:38:08] <a9913> ^_^
  299. [20:38:14] <a9913> thanks
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  305. [21:39:36] <pico4743> kurrik: orkut sandbox returning js error "gadgets is not defined"; live is fine
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  307. [21:42:07] <kurrik> pico4743: which gadget?
  308. [21:42:39] <pico4743> looking
  309. [21:45:02] <pico4743> http://www.accuable.com/opensocial/orkut/canvas-sandbox.xml
  310. [21:45:17] <pico4743> thats the xml for my development app
  311. [21:46:04] <pico4743> wait, I think I also see the error on iLike
  312. [21:46:14] <pico4743> which is on my profile too
  313. [21:46:24] <kurrik> do you have firebug installed?
  314. [21:46:29] <pico4743> yep
  315. [21:46:34] <kurrik> can you tell me if you see any failing requests in the NET tab?
  316. [21:47:13] <pico4743> no
  317. [21:47:21] <pico4743> that is no failures
  318. [21:47:29] <pico4743> but I see 0 requests
  319. [21:47:39] <pico4743> I don't have much experience with NET tab
  320. [21:47:50] <pico4743> wait
  321. [21:47:56] <kurrik> if you reload the page
  322. [21:47:56] <pico4743> clicked another button
  323. [21:48:01] <kurrik> you should see a bunch of requests made
  324. [21:48:05] <kurrik> some may be in red
  325. [21:48:13] <kurrik> I'm interested in any that are red
  326. [21:49:08] <pico4743> Iabel in red on flash:views:dynamic-height
  327. [21:50:12] <kurrik> can you copy that url and paste it here?
  328. [21:50:40] <pico4743> referrer url?
  329. [21:50:55] <pico4743> http://2u92m544ltp8p0ckvtlqufo7mnv9q9a3.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/ifr?url=http://www.electricplanet.com/matcher-live/opensocial/orkut/canvas.xml&parent=http://sandbox.orkut.com&lang=en-US&country=US&synd=orkut-sandbox&view=profile&mid=2&libs=dynamic-height%3Aflash%3Asetprefs%3Aviews&h=280&st=AFinprTHb_bXk2rNg5Xe5Q64xkqs81DUO4-GFetbPCdPr18wm4XXwTVIyi-L6JaIOPSN2Kcdt6G4ojy-7NkEvAHMvMIZATUOut2Fwc3IcsBXeq6cxIlF-c8
  330. [21:51:09] <pico4743> the electric planet part is my live app
  331. [21:52:30] <kurrik> no, sorry, click on the flash:views:etc line and copy the url to it
  332. [21:52:51] <kurrik> right click, that is, then "copy location"
  333. [21:53:24] <pico4743> http://www.sandbox.gmodules.com/gadgets/js/flash:views:dynamic-height:setprefs.js?v=bf9168cc6e94fc635476fc8a41f6ff&container=orkut-sandbox&debug=0
  334. [21:53:58] <kurrik> if you open that in your browser, what happens?
  335. [21:54:42] <pico4743> Google Server Error; Retry in 30 seconds
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  337. [21:55:11] <kurrik> ok, thanks
  338. [21:55:17] <pico4743> welcome
  339. [21:56:29] <kurrik> one more thing, can you ping www.sandbox.gmodules.com and tell me the ip address that you're hitting?
  340. [21:57:09] <pico4743> 64.233.169.104
  341. [21:57:32] <pico4743> yo-in-f104.google.com
  342. [21:58:07] <kurrik> thanks
  343. [22:01:12] <kurrik> ok, I reported the problem, that should be enough information to try and track it down
  344. [22:02:01] <kurrik> I've actually got a meeting I've got to get to, but if they have any questions, someone will ask you about it here
  345. [22:02:24] <pico4743> thanks; is it likely that the setprefs.js failure could cause the gadget stuff to be undefined?
  346. [22:02:48] <kurrik> yeah, that's certainly a strong possibility
  347. [22:03:11] <pico4743> k. I'm done for today, so I may not see the question
  348. [22:03:16] <kurrik> sure
  349. [22:03:25] <pico4743> thanks again
  350. [22:03:26] <kurrik> orkut will be looking into it
  351. [22:03:44] <kurrik> if you see me again tomorrow just ping and ask about it if it's still happening
  352. [22:03:54] <kurrik> later
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  363. [22:51:51] <straight_up> how long does it take for a freaking orkut developer account to be approved?
  364. [22:52:00] <straight_up> or for them to "find room for me" rather?
  365. [22:52:11] <straight_up> (serious question.)
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  369. [23:47:32] <KevinMarks> Survey on what openSocial events you want: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pnPpgOuf1IJEpeuRA2W70aQ
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