IRC Log for #OpenSocial on 2008-06-02

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  9. [01:08:43] <sethuhdiah> what will be the easiest way for the user of a widget to save a setting for the widget
  10. [01:09:17] <sethuhdiah> like for weather, can i have the user save their location so itll use that when it loads up
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  12. [01:35:43] <v_vamsi> ?
  13. [01:35:50] <v_vamsi> yeah u can save it
  14. [01:35:55] <v_vamsi> using persistant data
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  16. [01:42:16] <sethuhdiah> thanks
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  19. [02:02:52] <v_vamsi> sethu
  20. [02:03:01] <v_vamsi> can i see ur application if u dont mind
  21. [02:07:06] <sethuhdiah> load this up into igoogle... www.topcelebs.biz/widget/celebs.php
  22. [02:08:13] <sethuhdiah> work in progress
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  29. [04:23:23] <peter_12> So I just signed up for an orkut open social developer sandbox account. It tells me i need to wait and it will let me know when positions are available. What is going on here? I would like to do the tutorial now, of course.
  30. [04:44:23] <v_vamsi> peter
  31. [04:44:41] <v_vamsi> sandbox on orkut takes upto 24 hrs to get access
  32. [04:44:47] <v_vamsi> if u are in a real hurry
  33. [04:45:07] <v_vamsi> u can always install r own working copy of the open social container either by using happy hour or shindig
  34. [04:45:36] <v_vamsi> if u feel unconfortable u can sign up for a hi5 / imeem sandbox accounts to get immediate access
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  36. [04:56:13] <peter_12> v_vamsi: thanks for the information.
  37. [04:56:20] <peter_12> how do these open social containers work?
  38. [04:57:06] <v_vamsi> setting up shindig was hard either with java or php
  39. [04:57:13] <v_vamsi> happy hours works on google gears
  40. [04:57:24] <v_vamsi> just set it up and run
  41. [04:57:39] <v_vamsi> they provide a easy way and testing platform
  42. [04:57:48] <v_vamsi> u add ur application and u wud be having
  43. [04:57:49] <peter_12> they are only for testing?
  44. [05:08:04] <v_vamsi> yup
  45. [05:08:15] <v_vamsi> development and testing
  46. [05:08:38] <v_vamsi> once u finished developing .. u hv to submit them to the app gallery and wait for that to get approved
  47. [05:08:59] <peter_12> the app gallery is with google, or hi5 or both?
  48. [05:11:29] <v_vamsi> app gallery is mor like deployment (available to everything)
  49. [05:11:52] <v_vamsi> available to everyone and every network thats with open social
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  53. [05:27:13] <peter_12> then where is the app gallery?
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  56. [06:01:34] <v_vamsi> app gallery is available on irkut
  57. [06:01:39] <v_vamsi> orkut hi5 and myspace
  58. [06:01:42] <v_vamsi> not sandbox
  59. [06:02:03] <v_vamsi> applications which get approved wud be made publicly available by the respective network
  60. [06:02:17] <v_vamsi> and they wud be available on gallery only after they get approved
  61. [06:02:21] <v_vamsi> hi gavrav
  62. [06:02:33] <v_vamsi> hi Suhail long time
  63. [06:02:35] <v_vamsi> how u doing
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  66. [06:22:00] <v1c> Hi kurrik
  67. [06:33:35] <jboutelle> Hey Gaurav!
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  77. [07:13:22] <v_vamsi> Hi boutelle
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  86. [07:43:04] <GauravGupta> Hi vamsi
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  100. [11:54:59] <v_vamsi> hi gaurav how are doing ?
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  124. [15:24:28] <as3coder> hi all - i am a beginner with the myspace opensocial as3 library. i am looking for a tutorial or some sample code of a hello world app for myspace using the official as3 libraries. any pointers? thanks a lot.
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  126. [15:41:56] <seth> how tough is it to get a gadget accepted into myspace? I filled out the developer forms a few weeks ago and got no reply
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  168. [18:52:37] <Aakash> hi
  169. [18:53:20] <Aakash> arne, there?
  170. [18:54:41] <kurrik> hi, yes
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  172. [18:57:32] <Aakash> sendMessage() still not live on Orkut
  173. [18:57:48] <Aakash> how come people from brazil are able to add my app?
  174. [18:58:31] <kurrik> orkut production, you mean?
  175. [18:58:51] <Aakash> yup
  176. [19:04:07] <kurrik> yeah, looks like it's still not implemented
  177. [19:04:18] <Aakash> is it like people are changing country to get apps?
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  179. [19:04:29] <kurrik> as for your second question, how do you know they're from brazil?
  180. [19:04:42] <Aakash> analytics
  181. [19:04:43] <kurrik> we've seen some people changing their country to get apps, yeah
  182. [19:06:28] <Aakash> any timeframe of brazil roll out?
  183. [19:12:04] <kurrik> I'm not completely sure
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  185. [19:12:27] <kurrik> they're going to do it gradually, but I haven't been looped in any more than that
  186. [19:12:47] <ringleader> its got to be the most gradual roll out ive ever seen
  187. [19:13:16] <kurrik> yes, the reason for that being that orkut is seeing a lot of apps be overwhelmed by the traffic
  188. [19:13:57] <ringleader> that makes sense, how polite of them
  189. [19:14:07] <kurrik> I think the projections meant that with a full rollout, some apps will see a 5x increase in traffic
  190. [19:14:34] <kurrik> so they've been working with the highest traffic apps to try and get things optimized
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  207. [19:38:13] <sethuhdiah> ive added my gadget to myspace and to widgetbox but it doesnt look quite the same as it does in igoogle... seems like the tabs and adjust height arent working. Is this because they are using different versions of opensocial?
  208. [19:38:56] <kurrik> probably not different versions, but likely slight differences in implementation
  209. [19:39:16] <kurrik> adjustHeight isn't working on myspace? last I checked it was
  210. [19:40:24] <sethuhdiah> i was just looking at the preview area
  211. [19:41:14] <sethuhdiah> is there a different way to use tabs that would work with myspace? im using TabSet currently and works fine in igoogle sandbox
  212. [19:41:26] <sethuhdiah> btw kurrik, thanks for the demos at IO
  213. [19:42:09] <kurrik> sure, I'm glad it helped people
  214. [19:43:50] <kurrik> hm, it's a shame that they don't support the tabs feature
  215. [19:44:06] <kurrik> if you use a javascript library, it likely has a UI extension that supports tabs
  216. [19:44:14] <kurrik> here's one for jQuery: http://stilbuero.de/jquery/tabs/
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  219. [19:44:42] <kurrik> I guess here's a more official sample: http://docs.jquery.com/UI/Tabs
  220. [19:45:05] <sethuhdiah> I was trying to use the built in tabs feature with opensocial... <Require feature="tabs" /> ... tabSet = new gadgets.TabSet
  221. [19:45:58] <kurrik> yeah, I haven't used tabs on myspace... does tabSet wind up being null?
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  223. [19:50:23] <sethuhdiah> is it a feature specific to opensocial 0.8 and igoogle sandbox is the only thing using it?
  224. [19:50:43] <sethuhdiah> im not sure exactly whats happening, this is the first thing ive tried to add to myspace and is a little confusing why things are different
  225. [19:51:16] <kurrik> it's an optional feature that's recommended but not guaranteed to be implemented in all containers
  226. [19:51:53] <kurrik> it should be available on hi5 (they use the same gadget rendering server code as google), but since MySpace uses their own code, they might be a little out of sync
  227. [20:01:02] <sethuhdiah> are there any other optional features I should know about.. targeting igoogle, myspace, facebook, and hi5 containers primarily
  228. [20:02:09] <abc123> you'll know them only as you move forward. There are too many to mention here
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  230. [20:02:29] <abc123> But at a very high level, these platforms are similar enough for you to have a core-code working everywhere
  231. [20:02:46] <abc123> Well, I don't know about iGoogle .. so I am talking about others only
  232. [20:03:05] <abc123> And MySpace will be the most "off" the spec for reasons that kurrik mentioned
  233. [20:05:09] <kurrik> got a meeting, back later
  234. [20:05:36] <sethuhdiah> thanks for the help
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  246. [20:49:55] <kurrik> back
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  250. [21:06:31] <sethuhdiah> any ideas on the best practice for monetizing some gadgets? All I can mostly think of is adsense or amazon/ebay affiliates...
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  252. [21:11:16] <kurrik> I think you can look at the popular facebook apps for ideas
  253. [21:11:31] <kurrik> I've seen a couple that do virtual currency type things
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  258. [21:24:19] <sethuhdiah> i dont thin I can go the virtual currency route because we would need to track the affiliate commissions and find out if we can afford to pay people to use the systems, also would run into some problems sending checks and IRS type stuff
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